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RE: The end of zonerzonerzoner - Rewrite the Zoner ID - Tonto1911 - 05-30-2014
(05-30-2014, 12:54 PM)St.Denis Wrote: - Cannot bring cruisers, carriers or battleships into house space. Unless escorted by the House Police/Navy.
This would allow those Caps that wanted to transit House Space to be able to. I know it is a House Law but if it was added, to their ID, then there wouldn't be any ambiguity.
The problem with this would be the clear way to abuse it. Say someone has a friend with a LN ID, he can just have his friend fly with him all across New York for instance, and just tell everyone he's escorting the Zoner. It'd be better for everyone just to bar them from entering House Space and remove all chances for abuse.
RE: The end of zonerzonerzoner - Rewrite the Zoner ID - SnakThree - 05-30-2014
Lyth, add House Space list to your post so people could quickly see which systems those are.
RE: The end of zonerzonerzoner - Rewrite the Zoner ID - Lythrilux - 05-30-2014
(05-30-2014, 01:12 PM)Snak3 Wrote: Lyth, add House Space list to your post so people could quickly see which systems those are.
Good idea, I'll do that straight away.
RE: The end of zonerzonerzoner - Rewrite the Zoner ID - Zen_Mechanics - 05-30-2014
They shouldnt use those in freeports that surround house-space, but things have been conditioned until now to allow them to enter there, and while I dont hesitate to find reasons for caps to travel there, I truly understand the issues. But it has been proven over and over again that no matter what you do, people will still, and always hate you. So, you could say that if the community was more "open-minded", tolorent, cured and vaxined from picking things automatically for the pure fun of it, and the constant -waggon jumps - then I suppose people like myself would compromise.
The very Idea that people such as lyth are so puzzled by the danger of free-caps to free-people is why I'll never ever vote for him. He did not stop for a moment before he made a ZA comment, so I thought I should pay some tribute back. He is well known to reject things, you can only judge that with the amount of "delete that, delete this" threads he keep bringing up. With that being said, Id like to forward a question to you, as LH~ - Do you find anything problematic with having zoner caps in liberty, Or in other words, Are you not able to deal that situation with the tools you already have? Do you need to step so low as to ask the admins to do oorp things, just because you can't rp? I'm sorry, but If i was a part of the LN I would not cry over to the admins on something that I can already DO with my ID.
RE: The end of zonerzonerzoner - Rewrite the Zoner ID - Pavel - 05-30-2014
(05-30-2014, 12:57 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: Zoner players should approach this topic a different way. You need to be more strategical than you are now. Seriously.
You should have recognized by now that there are many people that intensively hate on you.
Especially what they call "lol-caps" is what freaks many of those that hate you out.
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Quote:hate
Jack, please.
If people "hated" zoners, they'd shoot them in game 24/7. Instead, they discuss things they don't accept on the forum.
Not every voice "against" something is an example of "oorp hate", be it in zoner thread, IMG one, or any other.
Zoners have ships which they shouln't have. It's leftover from times when Discovery wasn't roleplay server. More, Zoner players en masse abused and keep abusing that undeserved perk. People have right to be upset about it.
Personally I think we must purge our server from all that idiocy which remains from Disco's early years, like zoner caps, or super-duper "guard systems". Every another day this nonsense content stays in game deals damage to overall roleplay atmosphere of our server and contradicts common sense.
RE: The end of zonerzonerzoner - Rewrite the Zoner ID - SnakThree - 05-30-2014
Zen, It would be wise if you could direct your question at someone, as I am the only LH~ member in this topic and I certainly haven't mentioned anything about ZA.
Use of paragraphs is advised. Would make it a lot easier to follow your thoughts.
RE: The end of zonerzonerzoner - Rewrite the Zoner ID - Sabru - 05-30-2014
(05-30-2014, 01:23 PM)Zen_Mechanics Wrote: Or in other words, Are you not able to deal that situation with the tools you already have? Do you need to step so low as to ask the admins to do oorp things(1), just because you can't rp(2)? I'm sorry, but If i was a part of the LN I would not cry over to the admins(3) on something that I can already DO with my ID.
congrats tel. 3 insults in 2 sentences.
* Sabru claps.
nice job there.
RE: The end of zonerzonerzoner - Rewrite the Zoner ID - Zen_Mechanics - 05-30-2014
(05-30-2014, 01:27 PM)Snak3 Wrote: It would be wise if you could direct your question at someone, as I am the only LH~ member in this topic and I certainly haven't mentioned anything about ZA.
Use of paragraphs is advised. Would make it a lot easier to follow your thoughts.
I am using my phone so that could be the case. I was reffering that question to you, and the za comment was reffered to Lyth, the junker m.. guy.
So, If you can please tell me, is it impossible to use the already exisiting tools that your ID grants you, to deal with such situations ( if in theory you hated zoners ) - Would you agree that anyone rping a navy character such as the souls in the earlier posts Who for some reason can't find the way to deal with zoner caps - to cry over on the forums?
Is that the philosophy? If so, It is perfectly normal for me to cry over and whing about it on the forums and pick any other issue that I find it hard to rp, and ask the admins to do it for me.
The minute I see a LN crying on something on the forums, is the minute I discard him. If he is not capable of doing his job, you know, what he is meant to do - then his voice doesn't matter.
Maybe the admins can jump in and expand on this a little further.
Im sure that if they had the idea that people can't deal these things inrp, they would have made changes by now. But only a handful, such as lyth cant rp enough so they must ask for devine power.
RE: The end of zonerzonerzoner - Rewrite the Zoner ID - Lythrilux - 05-30-2014
(05-30-2014, 01:23 PM)Zen_Mechanics Wrote: The very Idea that people such as lyth are so puzzled by the danger of free-caps to free-people is why I'll never ever vote for him. He did not stop for a moment before he made a ZA comment, so I thought I should pay some tribute back.It's because of ZA that such a thread like this exists. It's impossible for me to ignore the lolwuttery of ZA: I find it all over my Skype chats, there have been meme made out of them and even you bring it up sometimes yourself. I'm not making personal attacks here, that's not the kind it thing I like to do, however it's very hard to take you seriously as thanks to ZA your points have next to no credibility.
(05-30-2014, 01:23 PM)Zen_Mechanics Wrote: He is well known to reject things, you can only judge that with the amount of "delete that, delete this" threads he keep bringing up.Am I a fool for speaking my opinion about a matter? Does it make me an idiot, a child, or a lesser individual to simply speak my mind about a flaw, inconsistency or error within the mod? I'd rather be a fool for speaking my opinion, rather than stay silent and never be heard.
RE: The end of zonerzonerzoner - Rewrite the Zoner ID - Lythrilux - 05-30-2014
(05-30-2014, 01:33 PM)Zen_Mechanics Wrote:(05-30-2014, 01:27 PM)Snak3 Wrote: It would be wise if you could direct your question at someone, as I am the only LH~ member in this topic and I certainly haven't mentioned anything about ZA.
Use of paragraphs is advised. Would make it a lot easier to follow your thoughts.
I am using my phone so that could be the case. I was reffering that question to you, and the za comment was reffered to Lyth, the junker m.. guy.
So, If you can please tell me, is it impossible to use the already exisiting tools that your ID grants you, to deal with such situations ( if in theory you hated zoners ) - Would you agree that anyone rping a navy character such as the souls in the earlier posts Who for some reason can't find the way to deal with zoner caps - to cry over on the forums?
Is that the philosophy? If so, It is perfectly normal for me to cry over and whing about it on the forums and pick any other issue that I find it hard to rp, and ask the admins to do it for me.
The minute I see a LN crying on something on the forums, is the minute I discard him. If he is not capable of doing his job, you know, what he is meant to do - then his voice doesn't matter.
Maybe the admins can jump in and expand on this a little further.
Im sure that if they had the idea that people can't deal these things inrp, they would have made changes by now. But only a handful, such as lyth cant rp enough so they must ask for devine power.
Get out of my thread. I don't want a blasphemous fool trying to ruin my efforts of simply trying to save a faction that people want to play.