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Too Many OORP Grudge Moves to Handle - TLI-Inferno - 09-04-2014
I understand their reasoning, however OORP the real reason may be, but it really seems like this blanket bounty is harming gameplay.
For example, last night I was hit by GRN and UC working together. The first thing they did after I was dead was start going all over the place, forums, TS, etc, telling everyone how I "didn't roleplay and didn't even speak", but the reason for that is that I was instantly engaged and was never even given the chance to say anything. I wasn't about to stop and talk while a UC gunboat was firing into me with a GRN cheering him on and chasing me. The GRN never even made a single demand; not even to stop.
I've even seen bounty hunters working with the UC...
I think it's really OORP the kinds of people who've been working with the UC because of this bounty. They submit the proof against themselves every time they claim a bounty.
Are all of the rules suddenly sacrificed when it's the admin's pets who're breaking them? I guess it's okay for lawfuls and unlawfuls to work together as long as it's just against junker transports.
Anyway, I don't really like what this place has become. I've been getting ganked by lolwuts from every different faction in the game shorty after logging in every day; they check the chat list, log whatever characters are near, and hunt us down, regardless of what rep their character is.
The only two opportunities I've had to roleplay were events. One of which got crashed by lolwuts, and the other of which we barely managed to finish the event before we could be found by a bunch of LN and BHG lolwuts who were combing the system the moment they heard of the event. Most of the interaction I've had has been people saying a one-liner as soon as they see me on their scanners and then engaging me when they're close enough. That's all fine and dandy with me when it's Xenos or Hogosha, but when it's from every different faction in the game, be it lawful, quasi-lawful, or unlawful, it's just lolwutty.
And then people have the nerve to be, at the same time, complaining on the forums about how "Nobody attacks junkers, especially congressmen".
Sure, this is a QQ thread, whatever, I'm just sick of what this community has become. It'd disgusting. I came back for a little while, but I'm out again. I might come back again in the future and give the place yet another chance, but I'm really disappointed in this place right now...
RE: Too Many OORP Grudge Moves to Handle - Sath - 09-04-2014
Is it wrong nowadays for people to claim bounty on Junkers? I don't know how you can call everyone that kills you a lolwut. Can't think of this thread other than a "I regret being on the left side of the blues".
RE: Too Many OORP Grudge Moves to Handle - TLI-Inferno - 09-04-2014
(09-04-2014, 01:40 PM)Moriarty. Wrote: Is it wrong nowadays for people to claim bounty on Junkers? I don't know how you can call everyone that kills you a lolwut. Can't think of this thread other than a "I regret being on the left side of the blues".
It's not about the dying. It's about the OORP way it's happening, with people who are not supposed to be allying, teaming up with each other to kill every junker transport they see with no roleplay interaction whatsoever. BHG, GRN, UC, etc, shouldn't be working together.
Not to mention that the entire blanket bounty was started OORPly, as they had no inRP reasoning and no inRP way of knowing anything. They say it is for us having one of "their" ships, when in reality it's a ship their faction doesn't even build in the first place. Not to mention that they made the bounty the moment the SRP was accepted, which is OORP; they had no inRP way of knowing. In reality, they have an OORP grudge against the faction and wanted any excuse they could find.
The whole mess is OORP.
Here's the reality. Have an OORP grudge against any particular faction? Set a blanket bounty, and if you can afford to pay high enough, you can ensure their entire faction is slaughtered by every faction they come across, be it lawful or unlawful. And to top it all off, you can even blanket bounty transports, apparently.
Let's say for example that someone has 10 billion credits saved up (there are plenty of people with far more than this, so it's not unreasonable). That person could assign a 10m bounty which can last for up to 1,000 kills, which is pretty much enough to unofficially ban the opposing faction from the server. (Not literally, but in the way that people OORPly search for them in the chat to hunt them down).
It's not just about the blanket bounty against junkers, either. I believe that blanket bounties in general should be much more regulated in which factions can claim them so that you don't see unlawfuls and lawfuls working together for credits like lolwuts.
RE: Too Many OORP Grudge Moves to Handle - TheSauron - 09-04-2014
(09-04-2014, 01:34 PM)TLI-Inferno Wrote: That's all fine and dandy with me when it's Xenos or Hogosha, but when it's from every different faction in the game, be it lawful, quasi-lawful, or unlawful, it's just lolwutty.
Mind that Corse and Junkers are pretty much enemies. Blame Gallic Junkers for that.
Also, Corse and GRN DO cooperate against common enemies, mostly Outcasts in Taus. Corse is kind of a gallic BHG after all. And they're friendly with Hogosha.
Oh, and you are distributing base of our main enemie's economy - cardamine.
And yes, I'Ane IS our tech.
RE: Too Many OORP Grudge Moves to Handle - MÃmir - 09-04-2014
Dunno, oorp grudges is what keeps this place alive it seems sometimes.
Maybe if you re-define what a "lolwut" is and perhaps look inwards, you can find a solution? I mean you said yourself that you haven't been able to roleplay with people except for two occasions. Are you sure it's the other 100 people logging that is the problem, really?
If it's about Congress, it's been a long time coming. You have been pushing the envelope and for the past 1-2 years people have tried to helpfully point out a few of the issues with the faction, but nothing is taken to heart. It's still superhaulers, katanas, cruisers, battleships, pob's jumping barges etc. - there's been some extreme (and sly!) power-play going on, and rather than take in any of the friendly suggestions and warnings you've just carried on. Karma is a female doge, I guess.
RE: Too Many OORP Grudge Moves to Handle - dierton - 09-04-2014
GG on getting that link to how Congress HC acts towards other people on the server removed
I guess you guys don't want the truth getting out
RE: Too Many OORP Grudge Moves to Handle - Ponge - 09-04-2014
(09-04-2014, 02:12 PM)TheSauron Wrote: And yes, I'Ane IS our tech.
If by "ours" you mean Unione Corse tech, it is really interesting that no UC base sells the l'Ane. It is available only on Brigand and Maquis bases.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but BHG can only fulfill lawful bounties by their ID allowances. So UC sholuld not have even let BHG to sign up for that bounty, as UC are quasi-lawful, so BHG cannot fulfill their bounties.
RE: Too Many OORP Grudge Moves to Handle - Sath - 09-04-2014
*grabs popcorn*
This gonna get interesting 8|
RE: Too Many OORP Grudge Moves to Handle - TheSauron - 09-04-2014
Since when sellpoints define who a ship belongs to? Both Corse and Brigands are owners of this ship.
RE: Too Many OORP Grudge Moves to Handle - Jo Carpenter - 09-04-2014
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This is just a thought from a 4 year veteran of this server (This Is Chrono, aka Siren Stone) If your flying cargo of any sorts and know there's a high chance of your being hunted for any reason, do what most of us old school players used to do back in the day.
Hire.
Yourself.
An.
ESCORT.
Stop all this crying about getting popped by OORP idiots, Take their irresponsible, negligent, and disrespectful actions with a large grain of salt and respond as the better Man / woman / furry. if they OORP noRP / 1 line RP engage you, then simply react as your char would to this action and not as you would to the rude playing habits. if they don't RP, then you RP and if they don't respond, then you act as your char would to such a non response, screen everything, and if need be, report it.
Don't let their actions create a hatred for a game you obviously love. As for that escort I mentioned earlier, if factions are OORP hunting you, then a proper escort will actually help deter this or at least aid in your getting away. plus it creates other RP for you and said escort down the line.
Everything that happens in this game can be in some form or fashion translated into RP. as for those opposing factions working together, why not try doing a bit of RP on the forums informing the proper parties that can actually do something about their blatant act acts of treason / betrayal / whatever it would be for two opposing factions working together that are found out by their allies or enemies. If they want to work together even as enemies simply to gain a hand full of credits, then their actions could very well lead to their own blanket bounty thus turning the tables on them.
This is a Role Play Game, even if certain idiots DON'T care to RP and try to ruin other peoples fun, that doesn't mean you have to let them, take everything in stride, use it as if it were all actual RP, and eventually the tides will turn on the very people that seem to be annoying you.
This is just one Role Play oriented players opinion and advice. take what I say and do as you like, but this is what's helped keep me enjoying this game. Who knows, maybe I'm just a loon that likes getting pummeled on by idiots, or.. It could be that I've found a little piece of gold where others seem to ignore the mine. everything can be made into something else, and that something can be whatever you make it.
Sfae flying.
Hire.
Yourself.
An.
ESCORT.
Stop all this crying about getting popped by OORP idiots, Take their irresponsible, negligent, and disrespectful actions with a large grain of salt and respond as the better Man / woman / furry. if they OORP noRP / 1 line RP engage you, then simply react as your char would to this action and not as you would to the rude playing habits. if they don't RP, then you RP and if they don't respond, then you act as your char would to such a non response, screen everything, and if need be, report it.
Don't let their actions create a hatred for a game you obviously love. As for that escort I mentioned earlier, if factions are OORP hunting you, then a proper escort will actually help deter this or at least aid in your getting away. plus it creates other RP for you and said escort down the line.
Everything that happens in this game can be in some form or fashion translated into RP. as for those opposing factions working together, why not try doing a bit of RP on the forums informing the proper parties that can actually do something about their blatant act acts of treason / betrayal / whatever it would be for two opposing factions working together that are found out by their allies or enemies. If they want to work together even as enemies simply to gain a hand full of credits, then their actions could very well lead to their own blanket bounty thus turning the tables on them.
This is a Role Play Game, even if certain idiots DON'T care to RP and try to ruin other peoples fun, that doesn't mean you have to let them, take everything in stride, use it as if it were all actual RP, and eventually the tides will turn on the very people that seem to be annoying you.
This is just one Role Play oriented players opinion and advice. take what I say and do as you like, but this is what's helped keep me enjoying this game. Who knows, maybe I'm just a loon that likes getting pummeled on by idiots, or.. It could be that I've found a little piece of gold where others seem to ignore the mine. everything can be made into something else, and that something can be whatever you make it.
Sfae flying.