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=LSF= Comments processing center - jammi - 04-17-2012
By your logic I could run Bowex convoys out to Gallia as well, because the NPC faction supposedly knows the Council and we need cryocubes. Doesn't make it good RP. Do the groundwork before you jump the gun, yeah?
=LSF= Comments processing center - koske - 04-17-2012
jammi,
You can ask billions of questions every day but the fact is that bowex is traiding company mainly working for profit and support of Bretonian armed forces. Sure, you found interest in gallic space and you wish to support armed forces/Bretonia with goods that you can't find in Bretonia/Liberty space but you must think that you are just trading company and your crew, captains and security aren't trained for such operations and again you will have to stick to original plan, support bretonia legal way. On the other hand we are "intelligence branch of the Liberty Armed Forces, gathering information all over Sirius and operating in secrecy to ensure the free flow of goods and services in Liberty as well as maintaining national security. The LSF is unmatched in its core capabilities, functioning as one team, fully integrated into the Liberty House." Even with a risk we can support and run such operation because we are not working for a profit, we are working for the benefit of Liberty Republic and we do the dirty work outside Liberty space.
Microsoft can't be compared with CIA, nor Director/Owner of Microsoft can't ask president of USA "Hay why I can't send my agents into japan, they are killing my profit and I would like to end that by killing Director of their company that is taking most of Japans market" - Just for example, and on the other side we have CIA that would do everything to ensure safty and economy of USA by all means.
=LSF= Comments processing center - Senshi - 04-17-2012
You are missing the actual point really. LSF in Gallia, sure why not, they are intelligence. Stealing/smuggling cryos? Establishing relations with counter-royalist forces? All legit and a wonderful RP opportunity.
Smuggling cryos three times in a row, passing several GRN and IDF ships that ask it to stop and even destroy it multiple times "just like that" on the other hand? Not so cool. But if you want to consider that your proper form of RP, it'd be just as fair of us to publicize this brunt and not-very-stealthy failure of your "covert" operation to Gallia and other Houses. See the problem?
Getting intercepted once, sure, can happen, tough luck. But I'd expect you to try to weasel and talk your way out of it, not just a "Just let me pass, I'm building a base" line. And then you get all cranky that you got shot up? After that, you get a bounty hunter to "protect" you from us? A Bounty hunter providing escort and shooting Gallics?
And once you are killed, it would be expected to just let it be for a while and try again later, not just return 3min later and wondering why there still is GRN around that intercepts and kills you again. Only to try it a third time, finally having enervated us so much with this blatant ooRP that you get the pass by GRN.
It's just not what I would expect from the =LSF= tag in regards of RP. At all.
Regarding "no proof":
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4492/56942135.jpg
As people knowledgeable of that area know, that in the background is Planet Rousay in Orkney, meaning the LSF was just at the Orkney gate. Sadly I had the wrong sensor box on the lower left, else you would see the GRN being present as well (that battleship in the background is one of them , actually).
Again, there was absolutely no "stealth" involved in this...this was the third time he tried the run, when GRN let him pass out of frustration.
=LSF= Comments processing center - Alley - 04-17-2012
' Wrote:Regarding "no proof":
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4492/56942135.jpg
As people knowledgeable of that area know, that in the background is Planet Rousay in Orkney, meaning the LSF was just at the Orkney gate. Sadly I had the wrong sensor box on the lower left, else you would see the GRN being present as well (that battleship in the background is one of them , actually).
Again, there was absolutely no "stealth" involved in this...this was the third time he tried the run, when GRN let him pass out of frustration.
Interesting attitude from an official faction.
I'd like to know what the LSF has to say about this.
=LSF= Comments processing center - koske - 04-17-2012
Senshi,
This is whole new thing to discuss, I would like you to show me some evidence so I could create picture what really happened. About transport returning in a three minutes, I posted already on the previous page that he has rights by server rules to pass the same system where he is killed if he is running a trade but the thing with bounty hunter isn't cool at all. If you show me evidence of players RP and the bounty hunter in the place then I could actually talk to a player and solve the hole drama.
=LSF= Comments processing center - Alley - 04-17-2012
' Wrote:Senshi,
This is whole new thing to discuss, I would like you to show me some evidence so I could create picture what really happened. About transport returning in a three minutes, I posted already on the previous page that he has rights by server rules to pass the same system where he is killed if he is running a trade but the thing with bounty hunter isn't cool at all. If you show me evidence of players RP and the bounty hunter in the place then I could actually talk to a player and solve the hole drama.
This is entierely true, you're right. It doesn't mean you should abuse it. It's here to prevent traders from being interrupted in their trade run and end up stuck in a single place. The thing is, if Alleo Peak had a minimum of common sense, he would have realised that the GRN would not let him go, especially with such an annoying attitude. The not stupid thing to do would be to switch to another character for a while, then come back when they are not around anymore.
=LSF= Comments processing center - alphadog - 04-17-2012
No rules were broken. That's why I'm here and not in that other section of the forums.
I'll restate what happened.
- GRN catches LSF transport. We order him to drop the cargo and pay a fine for breaking export laws.
- LSF decides to go NO U and opens fire, probably in cooperation with a brigand that was around (Not sure, not really important either)
- GRN destroys LSF transport
- Bounty hunter shows up, acting all intersted and surprised about Navy shooting LSF
- Few minutes later, LSF transport comes from Languedoc again. Again filled with cryocubes.
- The chase leads to T23, and also the bounty hunter engages. Note that neither the LSF Transport or the Bounty Hunter made it clear they were working together (Not really the LSF's fault, and not really important for this matter either).
- LSF transport get destroyed again, Bounty Hunter and Brigand destroy the GRN gunboat.
- Later, I heard from other people the LSF transport came back AGAIN, AGAIN loaded with Cryocubes, but managed to get away this time.
I don't see why proof is neccesary, but here are some screens: http://imgur.com/a/CsXeT#0
=LSF= Comments processing center - koske - 04-17-2012
Quote:It doesn't mean you should abuse it.
Of course, you're right. I must stand on your side Alley but you must admit something with me. With proper evidence of the situation I can only talk to the player who did this and point him to the right thing but also his answer could be "they are exaggerate the whole situation making drama of it", and that way I would never be able to fix the drama.
Also I really want to talk with my player about the bounty hunter incident, I'm just hoping that he didn't oorply talked with him to protect him and still it can be random pilot flying around and decided to shot on his own. So, please I would like to see evidence on this matter or otherwise I can only talk and there is a big chance that nothing will happen.
=LSF= Comments processing center - Narendran87 - 04-17-2012
I was the man that was in-charge there. First :
Learn to pilot bison. Nova torps should not hit transport.
Try to RP and not to meta-game here.
Three factions saw what happened yesterday including some indies. if you want proof, sorry its already made sure up that its ok.
And I do want to add an PM comms with gforce :
Seems he does not believe in cubes RP. So he will OORP all he likes. So why is LSF now trying to defend your moves with RP. that player agreed that he is OORPing
=LSF= Comments processing center - Narendran87 - 04-17-2012
Aright koske i do know you. add me in skype and I will tell you the exact story. I was the only guy who spotted it first and the only guy who ordered others to let it pass