Sorry Spazzy,
First, discussing a rule change and why it might be good or bad isn't bickering, and it is totally acceptable to question the admins in this community.
Second, If this is a case where, as you say, this is just something to point at, then a simple "Admins will cancel or amend events if they are deemed to severely limit any other factions' activities in their own ZoI beyond any sense and/or provide utterly unfair protection to the faction from otherwise logical roleplay consequences." This would make it much clearer that this rule regards admin action and not player action. That way when a problem comes up, it is much clearer that even if a player thinks the event infringes on their rp, it is not up to them to get involved, it is up to the admins to change or cancel an event they think is a problem. I feel like a better and clearer wording for the rule change might be
Quote:Official player factions who have planned an event (with at least 24 hours notice on forum, here) can restrict participation of others in that event as they see fit. Admins will cancel or amend events if they are deemed to severely limit any other factions' activities in their own ZoI beyond any sense and/or provide utterly unfair protection to the faction from otherwise logical roleplay consequences
The second point in the above is actually a good one, followed by the proposal of an also good solution to something which could easily become problematic. Kudos from me, and a +1.
Quote:Faction Right 4. Official player factions who have planned an event (with at least 24 hours notice on forum, here) can restrict participation of others in that event as they see fit as long as it does not severely limit any other factions' activities in their own ZoI beyond any sense and/or provide utterly unfair protection to the faction from otherwise logical roleplay consequences.
I understand where this is coming from.
However, the change is wrong.
Why?
There are 5-8 (?) players on the server who take the trouble to do events on their own. They deserve support and protection from dozens of players who love to destroy events.
You have just opened the work of a vulnerable few who do things that make Disco feel alive to those who in reality want to ruin things.
You do not really believe that those who reported it want the server to feel "more real" and to "not disrupt the flow of natural rp". The real motive is that some feel entitled to their "hon hon hon - no! You can't do that because I say so" roleplay (not restricted to Gallia at all, but the phrase is fitting).
So... with this new rule...
Can the RHA-armada now rule-wise fuck up a Sair-BAF event inside Hessian ZoI? Because for sure it reads like that, and it is understood like it by what is written some posts upwards - by some guys still gleefully bragging about their intentionally ruining of a BAF-Sair event organised by Pepe (yes, Wesker, Shiki... looking at you).
Can any House police now come to an AFC race event at moment 1 and ruin it before the race has even started? Because for sure it reads like it and I know of more than a handful of players who would immediately shut down AFC events by bringing insta ships to kill the unarmored LFs, then laught their butts off.
So... what I read into this change is:
> you try to protect immersion
> but in reality you open the work, time and effort of a few creative minds to the destructiveness of a selected few, who -will- ruin the work of others simply because now they can.
This is going to have a dire impact on player-driven events.
It is exactly the wrong way.
Creativity, initiative and committment should not be wrecked just because some do not like it and want to ruin it.
Event makers deserve the protection of the old rules. Slap those few event makers who overdo it, but do not decrease protection for all event makers.
(01-06-2017, 05:46 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: Can the RHA-armada now rule-wise ***** up a Sair-BAF event inside Hessian ZoI? Because for sure it reads like that, and it is understood like it by what is written some posts upwards - by some guys still gleefully bragging about their intentionally ruining of a BAF-Sair event organised by Pepe (yes, Wesker, Shiki... looking at you).
please take any and all concerns regarding the RHA official faction to the RHA feedback thread thank you.
I still think that official factions can be generally trusted to not create stupid situations.
If they do, they can easily be slapped and reigned in.
There therefore is no need to make a clumsy large rule that opens up loopholes to destructive elements and will generally demotivate the few who want to create interesting things in Disco because their word will be damaged if they cannot simply go "FR4, see forum, now please leave".
Keep the title "official" attractive by keeping the faction rights relevant. Having the "old FR4" version is a big part of that and it would also show some appreciation of the good work that most event organisers do, instead of focussing on the 1 or 2 instances where things went bad.