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(03-21-2017, 06:44 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:
(03-21-2017, 06:41 PM)thisDerius Wrote:
(03-21-2017, 06:38 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: 2 problems in the OP.
1) accusing of powergaming
2) your attitude of killing people.
Sorry but you wont kill my characters if I dont want them to be killed
Discuss the thread, not the attitude you see all the time. Its getting annoying.
do I need to draw an arrow where auzari said "killing" in the OP?
The fact that death has near-to-none Roleplay impacts? Yes. Yes that is an issue. And your attitude isn't really helping either, you aren't even reading the post properly and you're already needlessly trying to stirr things up. Re-read it carefully.
It does not ask for character death.
Let me put it into perspective, if a Congress came up to the AFC base, and you blew him up, since he's far away from home and all, and then he proceeds to report the location of it to other factions and his internal MD, and reporting that AFC blew him up with all the chatlogs/screens/etc, that wouldn't make sense now would it? It's a Dark Matter cloud. I doubt you'll be transmitting anything in there so soon with your tinsy fighter equipment, bud.
(03-21-2017, 06:38 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: 2 problems in the OP.
1) accusing of powergaming
2) your attitude of killing people.
Sorry but you wont kill my characters if I dont want them to be killed
Discuss the thread, not the attitude you see all the time. Its getting annoying.
do I need to draw an arrow where auzari said "killing" in the OP?
The fact that death has near-to-none Roleplay impacts? Yes. Yes that is an issue. And your attitude isn't really helping either, you aren't even reading the post properly and you're already needlessly trying to stirr things up. Re-read it carefully.
It does not ask for character death.
Let me put it into perspective, if a Congress came up to the AFC base, and you blew him up, since he's far away from home and all, and then he proceeds to report the location of it to other factions and his internal MD, and reporting that AFC blew him up with all the chatlogs/screens/etc, that wouldn't make sense now would it? It's a Dark Matter cloud. I doubt you'll be transmitting anything in there so soon with your tinsy fighter equipment, bud.
actually, that's how its been done since I can remember.
(03-21-2017, 06:38 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: 2 problems in the OP.
1) accusing of powergaming
2) your attitude of killing people.
Sorry but you wont kill my characters if I dont want them to be killed
Discuss the thread, not the attitude you see all the time. Its getting annoying.
do I need to draw an arrow where auzari said "killing" in the OP?
The fact that death has near-to-none Roleplay impacts? Yes. Yes that is an issue. And your attitude isn't really helping either, you aren't even reading the post properly and you're already needlessly trying to stirr things up. Re-read it carefully.
It does not ask for character death.
Let me put it into perspective, if a Congress came up to the AFC base, and you blew him up, since he's far away from home and all, and then he proceeds to report the location of it to other factions and his internal MD, and reporting that AFC blew him up with all the chatlogs/screens/etc, that wouldn't make sense now would it? It's a Dark Matter cloud. I doubt you'll be transmitting anything in there so soon with your tinsy fighter equipment, bud.
Edit:
nomnomnom Wrote:actually, that's how its been done since I can remember.
I don't quite remember anyone reporting someone killing them far away from their territory. This makes zero sense if its done and if someone actually does it.
While obviously characters cant just be killed off everytime a ship they fly explodes, from what we've seen in the universe they would just kind of float there in an unmoving escape pod presumably. While realistically this means you could "kill off" any witnesses, the whole powergaming aspect prevents us rightly so from this. So in my opinion a character is well within their rights to say that x happened because their character presumably lived to tell the tale.
On the other hand I also do think that the whole showing screenshots / chatlogs / whatever after exploding is a bit off as well. One thing I don't think most people realize is exactly what the distance would be in some of these systems and the actual travel time any kind of sent information or even rescue teams would take to get to them. For reference to this we can just look at how certain bases are actually hidden from their opposition despite being within scanner range (falkland, ouray, schatten, formerly the bund base in frankfurt are some examples of this). It also takes roughly two weeks I believe for the freeport seven survivors to actually reach manhatten from sigma 17. Adding to these large distances you then need to factor in the various sources of interference such as background radiation from who knows what, other comms traffic that might be coming from anywhere. As well as in the case of one ship being attached possibly some kind of jamming technology.
Overall it's very hard to say without knowing more of the background lore, but generally my assumption is just that the character themselves somehow managed to escape but all the information they might've gotten on that ship itself is gone. This would also be pretty situational as a ship being blown up right next to a base would obviously have witnesses and most of its stuff recovered.
This has always been a topic I've had mixed feelings with. You'd think it was circumstantial but it's within every player's right to choose whether or not their character dies/is captured, as otherwise it's considered powergaming. Be that as it may, there's nothing stopping that person from going back and spreading the news. Though, the question is more or less if they'd have evidence afterwards, which most people use the black box excuse.
Today i saw something amazing. An actual rp argument that in other places is a standard rule. If i pvp killed someone in any campaign or game where roleplay and common sense is golden, this wouldn't even be a thread.
Despite being in a spacesuit or in an escape pod. do you think surviving an explosion or. testifying around or near such a traumatic events even normal? The stress and adrenaline enough would skew the sequence of events hell it already does to some people and its a game.
But this is disco.
This is the clown shoes 8 year old level of roleplay. and nyx is pointing out were metagaming 80% of the time.
Yes i realise i'm putting everyone down here including myself.
I'm going to be interested who defies common sense for their own convenience here and who has a brain and thinks growing up to normal levels of common sense are needed.
not saying anything should happen here after all if we were going to hold someone to this there might need to be abit more supervision.