@"Undertaker" @"inquest2" has been sanctioned for:
(07-17-2017, 06:36 PM)sindroms Wrote: Admin Notice: This reach out to older players is for the benefit of those players and our community. Individuals who do not fall under the category of players described above, who attempt to abuse this system will be destroyed.
Consequences:
Package ships that were renamed to BK-65_Serenity, Joy and Goldilocks have been removed and returned to their hangars in Bastille.
Your character named Donkey has joined them as punishment.
The ships are not leaving that system.
Trying to obtain two veteran packages by using a separate IP and forum name does not work.
Neither does straight-facedly lying to us in order to obtain aid that you, having roughly a billion credits in assets on the server at the point of your second application, obviously do not need.
If you require evidence, you may request such via PM from a Staff member. Only the accused or an official faction leader of the accused person's faction may request such. Once you have the evidence, and if you wish to dispute it, you may post in the Sanction Thread below. Do not continue PM'ing a staff member, as that will result in your Appeal being denied. If you PM a staff or post in the sanction thread and you are not directly involved, you are consenting to be subjected to the reprisal of my choice which may involve in game repercussions up to a ban. Blaming members of your immediate family, neighbors, friends, pets, and assorted Orcs, Trolls and any other legendary creatures may result in the use of Admin Right #CTE 750AE
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PSA: If you have been having stutter/FPS lag on Disco where it does not run as smoothly as other games, please look at the fix here: https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...pid2306502
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Dad introduced me to DiscoveryGC. He started on DiscoveryGC well before I did about 8 - 9 years ago before joining up with me at PTC. When I mentioned I had started playing Freelancer again he checked it out. As I understand things he couldn't use his old forum account but had to make another (Password problem). He is more of a vet on DiscoveryGC than I am. He applied for the Vets package, as I did. It is genuine.
The comment you have made about separate IP surprises me somewhat. Surely they should be the same as both his account and mine run through the same modem. Inquest is my Dad and I live at home.
So. In a nut shell, you are right to raise a flag on this, but wrong in assuming it was double dipping. We both have different computers, we both play legitimately, and we are both entitled to apply for Vet assist. If you think two people with one IP address should only have one Vet package, then I am fine with that, but please do not suggest either my dad, or his daughter are cheats.
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PSA: If you have been having stutter/FPS lag on Disco where it does not run as smoothly as other games, please look at the fix here: https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...pid2306502
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I've looked into your explanation and this is the following situation as seen from our side of the view.
As far as I understand your explanation is reasonable, however, it seems as though the recent request for the second package that came from @"Inquest2" and was processed for their provided character "-207" was created on the same machine that has access to the following characters:
Donkey
BK-65_Serenity
Junker
Paddy
Goldilocks
Dirk-Gently
Joy
AI-M
Clydesdale
Correo
Marco
-207
The request from @Undertaker was processed earlier and his request from the character named Junker and was a character the machine of which has access to the following characters:
Donkey
BK-65_Serenity
Goldilocks
Paddy
Junker
Dirk-Gently
AI-M
AI-D
Joy
Clydesdale
AI--Lost
-AI-
Correo
Molly
AI-E
-207
Molly.
Marco
AI_Lost
AI-Lost
The only characters that do not overlap (a.i. are not shared between both of your machines) are low-level seemingly throwaway characters, which do not seem to have much use in comparison of the shared ones and most of which are much newer, created AFTER the vet applications.
At this point in time, due to what has been described above, I cannot say that your explanation is concrete.
As such, your second request for the veteran package is declined.
Your ships Donkey, BK-65_Serenity and Joy have been placed back on the nearest neutral station.
I really do sincerely apologise to you, Sindroms and all the players for the confusion this has been caused. We have three computers at home, two laptops and a PC., and naturally Dad and I battle over using the best! (who wants to play on the old clunker laptop with the smaller screen).
Could you free Goldilocks from Bastille too please? (there are a few bears pining away for her).
Goldilocks has found herself a new bed back on NL.
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PSA: If you have been having stutter/FPS lag on Disco where it does not run as smoothly as other games, please look at the fix here: https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...pid2306502
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I want to endorse my daughter's view of what has transpired. Clearly there are special requirements for family members playing who have the same ISP address.
1. We have agreed to not play DiscoveryGC on a shared computer.
2. Accounts are completely autonomous and will not be shared, ensuring integrity of our individual RP.
3. Any shared RP we are involved where it is necessary to reveal our identities (such as joining the same clan, help with a transfer, assisting with setting up etc) will be circumspect.
Above all I would like to apologize to the ADMIN staff, particularly Sindroms, and the players, for what has happened. Both our intents were without malice nor fraudulently inclined, but clearly caused unnecessary angst and time lost checking things out.