As for the last few weeks, I had been in contact with several Indipendent Pirates and terrorist players
And tryed to let me pay millions of contribusion just to let me past systems
This week i did not trade much, So i brought aboud 30 mill in my ship
But if i count the Contribusion together from Indipendent players for passage its aboud 70 mill and it does not gerantee that other Indie's and faction from same affilliation let you pas
But if a Faction ask contribusion, That somthing different
Then its something to consider if you want to pay or not
Becouse if you pay one of the faction members then the rest of them leaves you alone
And maybe some service for escort or keeping the Indie's away (If system is owned by a faction)
So i think that Contribusion should only be alowed by faction's and let the Indie's just pirate
Your Opinions ??
what do you mean? because you're making me confused.
If I'm reading it right...
Once you're pirated by/make a contribution to a faction, the rest of the faction generally lets you through.
If you're pirated by an independent pilot, there's nothing really preventing another pilot from pirating you, even if they have the same tags.
The best way to go about doing something like this would be for the pirates to create a Non-Aggression Pact.
They'd write up a contract of sorts and the traders would pay to be free of their guns. This would likely be a weekly payment.
Quote:If you're pirated by an independent pilot, there's nothing really preventing another pilot from pirating you, even if they have the same tags.
Sure there is. The pirates who were paid a NAP would protect the traders while they're in their system. Any independent pirate who acts against the NAP would be killed by other pirates.
it sounds like:
pirating only allowed for factions. - cause if you re pirated by an non-factionized pirate, you are at risk to be pirated again by another.
... i d say - "no" - sounds like a bad idea. - since taxing is what pirates do most of the time ( instead of piracy ) - you d simply make ANY point in the unlawful side void for a non factionized player.
now, - lets look at it from a more distant point - and see what disco offers....
when we take the [RM] as an example, it is said that you "must not" play any rheinland military unless you are actually a member of the [RM] - as you d not be part of the military otherwise. - soo, this faction is blocked from non factioned players. - this point of view has been accepted as a "good" measure to ensure more RP in the affected regions. - lets say - liberty, kusari, bretonia imitate the same - lets call it "tolerance".
add in this point of view about pirates - and we get.... nothing more to do for non- fcationized players... oh, except zoners, BHG cause both are still mostly tolerant - the first one cause the only faction does not claim to be allmighty the last one cause it lacks a faction that could justify or cares for total control.
on a more constructive note:
what you can do is ask the pirate in question to "protect" you. - he can agree or maybe he wont. - after all, pirates are not known to be very nice people, are they? - if bad becomes worse - a trader has to change his routes - maybe temporarily , maybe permanently. i do see the problem there - but the solution is not making things any better. - personally - i found the best way to initiate a good chat with the pirate. - even if he does not agree to protect you, most pirates are more than willing to announce that "<insert traders name> has just been robbed blind by <insert NPC faction the pirate impersonates>" .... most of the time that makes any other pirates in the system that symphasize with the pirate leave you alone - IF you complied neatly.
Difference between pirating and asking Contribusion
Pirating is if they swoop down on ya, Dent your shield's and demand cargo or few mill and they leave you mostly for a day (Not 10 to 25 mill for a day)
Contribusion is like entrence fee for a few days to a week for 10 to 25 mill or maybe more
Normally when you see multiple pirates in the same area, they are in a team, and will not double tax you. Personally iv only been taxed by multiple pirates only once or twice. However, that was in areas 3 systems apart from the first tax.
Also, the only way to make it so only pirate factions can tax, is to make all pirate IDs obtainable only through admin approval similar to Nomad aligned groups. That of course would make it so independants can no longer become pirates and impossible to agree on by alot of people im sure.
ah , my bad - i don t think anyone should make such a deal anyway - i mean... what trader pays that much? - when i had my trader i only made like 20 million ( back and forth ) before i got bored and logged out. - no need to pay that all for the time i m not trading.
but yea - if its only those long term passes, maybe only facitons should do it. - OR, you shouldn t pay non factionized players for it. ( hell - for that much, i can get a bunch of mercs that make sure that this pirate won t pop up for at least a day )
Pay the pirate for a smaller amount of time than days. Most people who play Disco don't spend 24 hours on the server every day (Though you wouldn't think it with some) so you are bound to get a time when that pirate is not online.
Jinx, while I agree with the rest of what you said (as usual), I'd like to clarify something on this.
' Wrote:now, - lets look at it from a more distant point - and see what disco offers....
when we take the [RM] as an example, it is said that you "must not" play any rheinland military unless you are actually a member of the [RM] - as you d not be part of the military otherwise. - soo, this faction is blocked from non factioned players. - this point of view has been accepted as a "good" measure to ensure more RP in the affected regions. - lets say - liberty, kusari, bretonia imitate the same - lets call it "tolerance".
This is changing, and the spirit of this changed a good while ago. I'm rather surprised that the resolution we came up with hasn't been posted anywhere outside RM internal forums yet, actually, since it covers everything nicely and doesn't oppress anyone (unless they feel like flying Rheinland battleships all over the place and going 'lol pwnd u'... which has happened within recent memory...:dry:). Everything reasonable is fair game, if you can RP then you're welcome to help out.