05-03-2017, 09:54 PM
As the thread says, what happened ?
But let me put my thoughts in this, hoping the freedom of speech is allowed. What I am about to say may be very straightforward and some people's feelings might be touched (if they ever feel themselves) but I personally don't care because we sat in a urinehole for quite some years now, slowly getting worse.
So. I'm here since 7 years, with intense activity in the first 3-4 years than making a break for reasons of seeing the community starting to be crappier with every month that passed. But in this time I watched consistently the activity of the forums and all. Being for a while back in business, I still am looking with how the dynamics of this community evolves... in a bad way.
Mostly, the biggest downfall of the community was when critical decisions affected entire factions, groups and so on basically the entire community as whole because some individuals given with certain responsibilities, saw fit to implement what they did. Those were our green friends, the Admins.
It's a history with Disco, and I have no idea on why the pattern is repeating, it's like the cycle in Mass Effect, there came cancerous Admins that made bad decisions with their ignorance and all, considering just and everything, things that were heavily opposed by even the majority. Bias and opinionated people are no good for such positions in which an entire group of people (with the dozens), are dependent on the sole decisions of a few individuals. In no ordered, and civilized society this is not working.
I've seen the events lately, various suspended people, even a faction ? Wow. Ok. I'm a neutral figure here, I'm purely objective in my call. But I am not entirely sure that these happened completely just and with strong verdicts. I know a lot of people and have them over Skype and I took the liberty to ask and get myself "involved" into knowing their premise and cause, as a clueless pleb. Well, from different people I've managed to conclude that certain people have a strong bias over others and thus the OORP Hatred is starting to elaborate exponentially.
The main reason is because everybody knows everybody, but what's the problem of certain Admins ? Well, surprisingly they are people too and have their own opinions and biases. That is completely correct and just, but, in such criteria when the Admins have the power to instantly shut a faction up or not, and individual or not, change the course of how all the people do their things here and enjoy this environment, biased and opinionated people are not good here.
My point is that, slowly and surely this community that we most appreciate and care for, will be gone because most people that want to make something good are bottlenecked by narrow minded individuals from the upper foodchain. Rules need to change according to the desires of the community and not viceversa. It's like the developers who listen to create the game for the community, and they succeed to deliver and the game as an infinite success on the market. This is how it works here too. No point people that left hate Disco, or other exterior communities despise how things go here because they know the people who dictate it.
I am not blaming the entire Admin staff for this, but some need to be changed,replaced because their judging can jeopardize the integrity and stability of the community. We have in staff people who had problems in the past with sanctions/bans ? Well that can say a lot of things about their wisdom.
Some cancer-type of people need to calm their frustration likewise. Nobody gives a damn about your teenage puberty or childhood issues. You leave them at the door, we are all here from passion and hobby. Not to hear your crying and pathetic whining. There is also this complete -crap- phenomenon that people do a god damned sanction race. "OH I DONT LIKE WHAT HE DID TO ME, IM UBER SENSITIVE AND I THINK HE HAS SOMETHING IN REALITY WITH ME *completely forgets the roleplay universe and the game* I WILL REPORT HIM". And thats how people do that, on and on, and on, and on. You bottleneck the admins with these irrelevant crap, and halt the progress of the mod and the people who are waiting the Admins approval, because you spam their butts with stupid sanctions.
First of all, you have no rights to DEMAND things for your justice. If you feel you are not fair-played, you can contact the god damned person in cause and negotiate friendly on what happened, you can reach to an appeal if you know how to talk. If you are a child with frustration, leave this place and never return until you are more mature. NOBODY needs here drama. That's with the -idiots- that ruin the community and are part of this entire issue.
This applies for the Admins too. Some of you always come with "If you don't like it here, leave". No, if you are crap and can't act normally in this community, you should leave your seat and let others more decent and capable, because there are people. The shield of "we have RL we are humans too, etc etc" that's no valid argument. YOU signed up here. Nobody else forced you to do this and then complain you don't have time. You are not gods, you are not people who should impose forced respect over others, you need to learn it like all of us in here. That's how a normal community works. Again I am not blaming ALL the Admin Staff in this. Some are well known who fit very well in what I described.
So the conclusion ? Discovery GC, wake the f up. Do something, change the rules that are making other people abusive, come to a common place. Admins, Mods, members, they are all the same for me. If we are all decent and know how to act, we can make this place great like it once was, if not, it will vanish in the upcoming years, towards a slow, grim, death.
This is what I wanted to say directly and point the main problems. Because we are so thin these days the problems are not hard to pinpoint. It's up to us to repair it.
PS: I don't care if I triggered people, I wanted to say what I felt about it. You can even ban/sanction/warn me for whatever stupid reason you can find. I don't care. I miss 4.85/86.
But let me put my thoughts in this, hoping the freedom of speech is allowed. What I am about to say may be very straightforward and some people's feelings might be touched (if they ever feel themselves) but I personally don't care because we sat in a urinehole for quite some years now, slowly getting worse.
So. I'm here since 7 years, with intense activity in the first 3-4 years than making a break for reasons of seeing the community starting to be crappier with every month that passed. But in this time I watched consistently the activity of the forums and all. Being for a while back in business, I still am looking with how the dynamics of this community evolves... in a bad way.
Mostly, the biggest downfall of the community was when critical decisions affected entire factions, groups and so on basically the entire community as whole because some individuals given with certain responsibilities, saw fit to implement what they did. Those were our green friends, the Admins.
It's a history with Disco, and I have no idea on why the pattern is repeating, it's like the cycle in Mass Effect, there came cancerous Admins that made bad decisions with their ignorance and all, considering just and everything, things that were heavily opposed by even the majority. Bias and opinionated people are no good for such positions in which an entire group of people (with the dozens), are dependent on the sole decisions of a few individuals. In no ordered, and civilized society this is not working.
I've seen the events lately, various suspended people, even a faction ? Wow. Ok. I'm a neutral figure here, I'm purely objective in my call. But I am not entirely sure that these happened completely just and with strong verdicts. I know a lot of people and have them over Skype and I took the liberty to ask and get myself "involved" into knowing their premise and cause, as a clueless pleb. Well, from different people I've managed to conclude that certain people have a strong bias over others and thus the OORP Hatred is starting to elaborate exponentially.
The main reason is because everybody knows everybody, but what's the problem of certain Admins ? Well, surprisingly they are people too and have their own opinions and biases. That is completely correct and just, but, in such criteria when the Admins have the power to instantly shut a faction up or not, and individual or not, change the course of how all the people do their things here and enjoy this environment, biased and opinionated people are not good here.
My point is that, slowly and surely this community that we most appreciate and care for, will be gone because most people that want to make something good are bottlenecked by narrow minded individuals from the upper foodchain. Rules need to change according to the desires of the community and not viceversa. It's like the developers who listen to create the game for the community, and they succeed to deliver and the game as an infinite success on the market. This is how it works here too. No point people that left hate Disco, or other exterior communities despise how things go here because they know the people who dictate it.
I am not blaming the entire Admin staff for this, but some need to be changed,replaced because their judging can jeopardize the integrity and stability of the community. We have in staff people who had problems in the past with sanctions/bans ? Well that can say a lot of things about their wisdom.
Some cancer-type of people need to calm their frustration likewise. Nobody gives a damn about your teenage puberty or childhood issues. You leave them at the door, we are all here from passion and hobby. Not to hear your crying and pathetic whining. There is also this complete -crap- phenomenon that people do a god damned sanction race. "OH I DONT LIKE WHAT HE DID TO ME, IM UBER SENSITIVE AND I THINK HE HAS SOMETHING IN REALITY WITH ME *completely forgets the roleplay universe and the game* I WILL REPORT HIM". And thats how people do that, on and on, and on, and on. You bottleneck the admins with these irrelevant crap, and halt the progress of the mod and the people who are waiting the Admins approval, because you spam their butts with stupid sanctions.
First of all, you have no rights to DEMAND things for your justice. If you feel you are not fair-played, you can contact the god damned person in cause and negotiate friendly on what happened, you can reach to an appeal if you know how to talk. If you are a child with frustration, leave this place and never return until you are more mature. NOBODY needs here drama. That's with the -idiots- that ruin the community and are part of this entire issue.
This applies for the Admins too. Some of you always come with "If you don't like it here, leave". No, if you are crap and can't act normally in this community, you should leave your seat and let others more decent and capable, because there are people. The shield of "we have RL we are humans too, etc etc" that's no valid argument. YOU signed up here. Nobody else forced you to do this and then complain you don't have time. You are not gods, you are not people who should impose forced respect over others, you need to learn it like all of us in here. That's how a normal community works. Again I am not blaming ALL the Admin Staff in this. Some are well known who fit very well in what I described.
So the conclusion ? Discovery GC, wake the f up. Do something, change the rules that are making other people abusive, come to a common place. Admins, Mods, members, they are all the same for me. If we are all decent and know how to act, we can make this place great like it once was, if not, it will vanish in the upcoming years, towards a slow, grim, death.
This is what I wanted to say directly and point the main problems. Because we are so thin these days the problems are not hard to pinpoint. It's up to us to repair it.
PS: I don't care if I triggered people, I wanted to say what I felt about it. You can even ban/sanction/warn me for whatever stupid reason you can find. I don't care. I miss 4.85/86.