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Heyhey!

Xoria asked me to run some tests to find out what mining rates really are and how mining works in reality. If more players did these tests, we'd get a good idea of what is broken and how to fix it... because... yes... things are broken! According to the last dev, everything was "standardized". Ye... it is not.

Run your tests like this:

> use: your fastest optimised mining ship + write which one that is and which loadout
> obviously have the ID for all the bonuses
> only do x4 ores that your ID has



My test results today:

Quote:System: Tau 23
Ore: Niobium
Field: Only active Niobium field, lower left one of the 3
ID: IMG| ID
Bonus: x4
Ship: Annapurna mining freighter. 4 lasers.

2:40 min for 4175 units
2:30 for 4020
1:59 for 4020
2:22 for 3995
2:25 for 4020


Quote:System: Omega 3
Ore: Cobalt
Field: Comet
ID: IMG| ID
Bonus: x4
Ship: Annapurna mining freighter. 4 lasers.

2:00 min for 4175 units
1:43 for 3850
1:48 for 4020
2:02 for 4175
1:43 for 3850
1:55 for 4020
1:54 for 3995
1:38 for 4020


Quote:System: Dublin
Ore: Gold
Field: E2
ID: BMM indie
Bonus: x4
Ship: Clydesdale. 4 lasers.

HORRIBLE! Had to turn off space dust, backgrounds, everything to minimum to find rocks, and there were hardly anytime more than 2 on 1 screen. Compared to other fields... that's ridiculous.

3:31 for 3850
3:35 for 4020
5:00 for 4179
4:04 for 4020



Quote:Texas, Prem. Scrap. ALG ID, Behemoth, 4 lasers, (x4 bonus?)
Rock count: okay. Contrast is okay for mining.

4:50 => 3525 units
5:30 => 3905
5:17 => 3880
5:25 => 3815
5:27 => 3780


Quote:GMS ID, Tau 23 Berryllium EF67, Rock Badger, 4 lasers, x4 bonus
Rock count: okay. Contrast is okay for mining.

3,48 min => 3525
4,03 => 3905
3,40 => 3815
3,49 => 3780


Quote:Kruger ID, Silver, O7, Ragnar - 4 lasers in slots 4/5/6/7 => should be optimised loadout
Good contrast.
Good rocks.
Good field. Nice mining.

2:55 => 4990
2:00 => 3525
2:37 => 4990
1:49 => 3525

Very interesting comparison between a Hegemon and an optimised freighter!!
The Hege is twice as slow as this freighter miner!

(08-05-2017, 08:03 PM)The.Outlaw.Star Wrote: [ -> ]Silver ore Omega 7, Kruger field
Player name Cookie.Monster, Heg mining ship

ships cargo - 3,525 - 5:01.59
ships cargo - 3,905 - 5:48:51
ships cargo - 3,880 - 5:22:48
ships cargo - 3,780 - 5:46:52
ships cargo - 3,815 - 5:27:03

Comment by Jack: Very slow. Non-optimized loadout and Hegemon class miner.


Quote:Picardie, GMS ID, Rock Badger, 4 lasers

OUTRAGEOUS!!!!
No rocks most of the time.
Small, flat rocks
Nearly invisible.
Even hard to find when zero grafix, no space dust, etc etc

This is UNMINEABLE!
de'Sade must have designed this.

9:47 => 3905
10:12 => 3815

I gave up after 2 runs. Too annoying.
BMM/gold does take days.
Quote:Quote:
System: Dublin
Ore: Gold
Field: E2
ID: BMM indie
Bonus: x4
Ship: Clydesdale. 4 lasers.

HORRIBLE! Had to turn off space dust, backgrounds, everything to minimum to find rocks, and there were hardly anytime more than 2 on 1 screen. Compared to other fields... that's ridiculous.

3:31 for 3850
3:35 for 4020
5:00 for 4179
4:04 for 4020

I have to agree. It's really difficult to localise the rocks with your eyes. It's kinda the same in Nagano's Platinum ore field.
Guys! I am not the only mining faction out there.
Run a few tests.
Post the results!

This is a classic faction leader job!
If you want your field to meet normal standards in the next patch, I suggest you check out what your fields are, what is bad, what needs to change, what you want, etc etc.
Quote:Texas, Prem. Scrap. ALG ID, Behemoth, 4 lasers, (x4 bonus?)
Rock count: okay. Contrast is okay for mining.

4:50 => 3525 units
5:30 => 3905
5:17 => 3880
5:25 => 3815
5:27 => 3780


Quote:GMS ID, Tau 23 Berryllium EF67, Rock Badger, 4 lasers, x4 bonus
Rock count: okay. Contrast is okay for mining.

3,48 min => 3525
4,03 => 3905
3,40 => 3815
3,49 => 3780
Silver ore Omega 7, Kruger field


Player name Cookie.Monster, Heg mining ship


ships cargo - 3,525 - 5:01.59

ships cargo - 3,905 - 5:48:51

ships cargo - 3,880 - 5:22:48

ships cargo - 3,780 - 5:46:52

ships cargo - 3,815 - 5:27:03
Tnx, Outlaw. Edited your values into the 1st post.
Quote:System: Omega-7
Ore: Copper
Field: E7
ID: DHC-
Bonus: 4.0x
Ship: Ragnar, 4 lasers

2:36 for 5000
2:09 for 4175
2:29 for 5000

Quote:System: Omega-11
Ore: Uncut Diamonds
Field: 5C
ID: DHC-
Bonus: 4.0x
Ship: Ragnar, 4 lasers

As you can see something is up with this field. Those times are a bit much for a 4.0x ore. Another thing to note, there is no shortage of rocks to shoot at any given time on your screen, yet drop rate seems subpar.

3:53 for 5000
4:09 for 5000
3:32 for 5000

Hegemon
3:01 for 2640
2:56 for 2640
2:51 for 2640
2:32 for 2640
3:02 for 2640

I'm going to redo Diamonds test soon, those numbers seem a bit off to me, especially for a 4.0x ore.

EDIT-Added Hegemon times as well (Diamonds)
Quote:Kruger ID, Silver, O7, Ragnar - 4 lasers in slots 4/5/6/7 => should be optimised loadout
Good contrast.
Good rocks.
Good field. Nice mining.

2:55 => 4990
2:00 => 3525
2:37 => 4990
1:49 => 3525


Very interesting comparison between a Hegemon and an optimised freighter.
The Hege is twice as slow as the freighter miner.
Quote:Picardie, GMS ID, Rock Badger, 4 lasers

OUTRAGEOUS!!!!
No rocks most of the time.
Small, flat rocks
Nearly invisible.
Even hard to find when zero grafix, no space dust, etc etc

This is UNMINEABLE!
de'Sade must have designed this.

9:47 => 3905
10:12 => 3815

I gave up after 2 runs. Too annoying.
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