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As of late there has been a rampant plague of outcasts allying with Nomads for raids wherever. This has gotten out of hand, and it's clearly OOC behavior.

Let's set a few points of fact here:

1. The only humans who are friendly/allied to the nomads are the Wild (including Aoi and all other infected) and the Oracles.
2. Even the Oracles have little direct contact with nomads, and when they do it's usually to serve as an intermediary between nomads and human parties.
3. Outcasts are supposed to have a fearful reverence and respect for nomads: They arent allies, they do not view the nomads as friendly, they simply give nomads their space and avoid confrontations. Just because you're huffing cardamine doesnt mean nomads suddenly think you're one of them.
4. There is absolutely no reason for outcasts to be travelling waaaay outside of their ZOI to participate in K'Hara/Aoi/Wild raids.
5. From the Nomads' point of view, outcasts are just like any other humans. We recognize that cardamine has changed them genetically, but they are not part of the Mindshare and are still "darklings" with motives that the nomads have no interest in. We will manipulate them if necessary to further our own goals, but we do not consider them allies, only mere tools like any other human.

EDIT: To further clarify, the only time it is ever acceptable for an outcast to overtly aid any form of nomad is when it is requested by them, typically through a correspondent like an oracle.

Just because a nomad/K'Hara/Vagrant/Wilde/Aoi/Whatever decides to go RP or raid wherever doesnt give outcasts automatic permission to go out of their way and join in, so please, stop this madness.

Tena... dude. Relax.

Yea force ppl to play YOUR way make them quit. Server dies, thats it. Sorry but let the people play the way THEY want, not the way YOU want.

I think the relationship between the Oracles and Nomads is something exclusive to Oracles and K'Hara. Having lead Aoi in the past, I've felt like they were only a little better than Outcasts - or really were just that part of Maltese society that worshipped them. But otherwise, yes, people have greatly exaggerated and taken the Nomad-OC relationship to unrealistic levels. It's only a very small minority of OC society who see Nomads as something to be worshipped or respectful. The rest of Maltese society couldn't give a toss otherwise (or well, keep distance for reasons you stated). This has been the case since Vanilla. CC tried to reshape things to say that all Outcasts hug Nomads on the daily, but that didn't go all the way.

The Outcast ID Wrote:Outcasts
The Outcasts are a large criminal faction founded from the descendents of the Hispania. They focus on piracy and Cardamine smuggling. They are allied with the Golden Chrysanthemums, Lane Hackers and Liberty Rogues. Their enemies include the IMG, Order and Corsairs. The Outcasts generally do not attack Nomads. Some Outcasts are known to revere the Nomads.


Pilot carrying this unlawful ID is a member of the Outcasts, who:


- Can attack any ships within their Zone of Influence, except transports.

- Can demand cargo and credits from any ship within their Zone of Influence, and attack them if they do not comply.

- Can treat ships carrying Artifacts or Stabiline as combat targets.

-Cannot ally with any lawfuls except when allying with Bretonia or Rheinland lawfuls.


Zone of Influence: Bretonia, Liberty, Kusari, Taus, Sigmas, Omicrons, Gallic Borderworlds, Magellan, Cortez, Coronado, Galileo, Kepler, Inverness

Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, Cruisers, Battleships

In my experience, it can go either way. It's literally anyone's guess whether they help or fight noms. There have been times where we really needed support in Iota only to have a rans show up and join in with the Core and shoot the Nomads. Outcasts don't give two hoots half the time it seems.

Looks like you've bumped into Shadow, just step over and keep walking, ignore him if you think his share of fun within the server environment is unacceptable for you.

Independently from your House of origin - you can get along with Nomads, just don't run around screaming and think a bit outside of general human's borders.

The trick is to just shoot the outcasts too for being around you when you're in purge mode as a nomad

(10-12-2018, 11:30 PM)Tenacity Wrote: [ -> ]1. The only humans who are friendly/allied to the nomads are the Wild (including Aoi and all other infected) and the Oracles.

Believe it or not, but while you were gone, things happened. Do yourself a favor and adjust to what Discovery is now and not what it was when you had a say. If people did their respective RPs to become friendly with the Nomads, you need to deal with it as it is. I know there are plenty of lolwut MNS out there, but some of them did their valid RP to be friendly with the Nomads. There are also a bunch of non-infected people out there who managed to become quasi-friendly with the Nomads - one of those being my SRP.

We all get your idea, but you don't have a say about other people's RPs just because you're annoyed.

Time to target all OCs : )

Someone give me the permission to shoot them and I will gladly shoot them in the name of Malta
On a serious note, couldn't agree more with Lyth.
Also it is indeed stupid if you have Outcasts ally up with Nomads against Outcast allies and friends, duh.