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Hi, let's put the nanobots from 5000 cargo transport directly to the hull.

Shetland/Bretonian Advanced Train
130.000 Hull - 350 Nanobots
350x600 = 210.000
340.000 hull for Shetland

Pachyderme/Gallic Advanced Train
88.000 Hull - 315 Nanobots
315x600 = 189.000
277.000280.000 hull for Pachyderme

TItanic/Heavy Tanker
104.000 Hull - 400 Nanobots
400x600 = 240.000
344.000345.000 hull for Titanic

Ryuujin/Kusari Train
100.000 Hull - 350 Nanobots
350x600 = 210.000
310.000 hull for Ryuujin

Mastodon/Liberty Transport
120.000 Hull - 385 Nanobots
385x600 = 231.000
351.000 350.000 hull for Mastodon

Colossus/Rheinland Train
130.000 Hull - 350 Nanobots
350x600 = 210.000
340.000 hull for Colossus

Whale/Zoner Transport
53.000 Hull - 350 Nanobots
350x600 = 210.000
263.000265.000 hull for Whale

i dont think i messed up any numbers but knowing me i probably did

having nanobots dumped into the hull alleviates a lot of instakill issues, particularly in cases where transports invest the bare minimum possible into an armor upgrade, while not doing much to the actual EHP of a ship.
No. Unarmoured transports should be possible to instakill. If you don't want to be instakilled, sacrifice the space and mount armour.

It is a tradeoff that should remain in place.
It'll make pirating harder, but it'll look more visually pleasing. A lot of Samura-Dock prevention depends on being able to make the transport fumble madly for his regen keys.
Not really needed. AU 8 takes up 20 cargo space. Everyone can sacrifice this little cargo for a 2.5x armor upgrade. AU 8 and there's no instakill issue anymore Smile
If you run pure 5ker and get instakilled, that's your own fault. Newbs should get told to buy one, with an explanation why it is worth it. I do so.
Not about power trading, it's POB supply.

If it were just trading I wouldn't care about flying 4980.
If you want more amour for protection then you must sacrifice some cargo for the extra layers of amour, not to have full cargo and get a good boost in amour from Nano's. If you want to have a pure 5ker then your choice and suffer the consequence of normal hull value for that little extra profit.

Example: Ryuujin/Kusari Train
100.000 Hull without amour upgrade
400,000 hull for Ryuujin with CAU8 and 4550-4600 cargo space. (rough estimate)

Lets put it this way if you had a CAU 8 on a 5ker you would lose 300 cargo, plus turrets and shield would take a little bit more, depending on train. Lets just go with all amour, turrets, and shield you would have about 4550-4600 cargo left, now you have 4550 cargo full of gold selling it at Planet New Berlin making 42,142,100 credits 5k load; , minus the credits spent getting the ore and you have your profit. You are only losing 4,167,900 credits. Like i said above your only losing a little bit of profit.

Pure 5ker: 46,310,000 credits
CAU8 plus shield and turrets: 42,142,100 credits
Loss profit with CAU8, shield, and turrets:: 4,167,900 credits

4 million loss does not sound bad for 4 times the value of your ships hull, for that extra protection. I only used a CAU8 as an example since it took the most cargo space up.

Edit: That's my thought on the subject.
Edit 2: And my vote for No, I meant No not "no, but i shouldve voted yes"
It's not about increasing total hull of those ships, it's about merging nanobots (which repair hull) into hull, so that there are less instakills. You can check my thread where long discussion took place about it and now instead we have old stupid rule back to protect transports in ooRP way, rather than making them less likely to be instakilled in more inRP way.
I would rather there be a Light Universal Armor Upgrade to be implemented that takes no cargo, but costs 200 mil or something.
The method I have will still prevent insta kill, but the cost will be less cargo and a little loss of profit. even a HAU4 and CAU5 will give you around the same hull as implementing the nano's into the hull, and a bonus you still get to use nano's to repair with AU on. HAU4 cost 48 million and CAU5 costs 88 million.

The way I see this idea is to give transports more HP without the loss of cargo space to still make pure 5kers without getting insta killed.
If you want a pure 5ker, you get insta killed, if you don't want to be insta killed amour up and lose a little cargo and profit to compensate.
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