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Several rule changes, including a big bounty hunting rule rewrite, have taken place in an effort to reduce convolution. These rule changes are now in effect:

Old Wrote:4.5 - All IDs can attack Nomads and Wild within their own Zone of Influence. All IDs may attack Nomads to protect others while outside of their Zone of Influence.
4.6 - Players may defend allied ships within their Zone of Influence, and may always act in self-defense or to defend ships of the same affiliation anywhere. 'Baiting' hostile ships into attacking you outside of your Zone of Influence is considered to be abuse intended to bypass ID restrictions and will be treated as metagaming.

has been reworked into:

New Wrote:4.5 - All IDs may:
  • Claim bounties within their Zone of Influence.
  • Attack Nomads and Wild within their own Zone of Influence.
  • Attack Nomads and Wild to defend allied or neutral ships outside their own Zone of Influence.
  • Attack others to defend allied ships within their own Zone of Influence.
  • Attack others in self-defence or to defend ships of the same affiliation anywhere.



Bounty Hunting rule changes:

This might be a silly question but it crossed my mind nonetheless:

(07-24-2020, 12:00 AM)Ramke Wrote: [ -> ]4.5 - All IDs may:
  • Claim bounties within their Zone of Influence.

So as per this, I'm assuming the implication is that you can't claim bounties outside of your Zone of Influence?

Does that mean if you were to assist someone out of ZoI (ie in a convoy), and you scored a kill on a pirate, are you not able to claim that as a bounty?

For IDs that have lines which permit them to shoot things outside of ZoI, are they able to claim bounties for those kills?

Cool changes otherwise,
(07-24-2020, 12:36 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: [ -> ]This might be a silly question but it crossed my mind nonetheless:

(07-24-2020, 12:00 AM)Ramke Wrote: [ -> ]4.5 - All IDs may:
  • Claim bounties within their Zone of Influence.

So as per this, I'm assuming the implication is that you can't claim bounties outside of your Zone of Influence?

Does that mean if you were to assist someone out of ZoI (ie in a convoy), and you scored a kill on a pirate, are you not able to claim that as a bounty?

For IDs that have lines which permit them to shoot things outside of ZoI, are they able to claim bounties for those kills?

Cool changes otherwise,

All IDs can claim bounties within ZoI, but not outside, unless stated otherwise.

For example, Liberty Navy won't be able to claim bounties in Kusari (unless they invade and get ZoI extentions - one can hope), but Unione Corse may claim bounties anywhere as they are allowed to do so as per ID rules.

This does mean that you technically shouldn't be escorting players that do not share the same IFF outside of ZoI, unless the ID allows you to escort them out of it (and thus get paid). However, if you're defending ships of the same affiliation (convoy), you may still get paid by the player for shooting them as this doesn't technically count as "pursuing a bounty" in terms of engagement, but rather defending a ship of the same affiliation.

Bear in mind, this is mostly in relation to engagement rules - players are free to spend and give their money as they wish.
So to clarify, does this mean (for example) Cryer ID can't collect a bounty payout for shooting Outcasts in the Taus (anymore), even though Outcasts are valid combat targets for them Sirius wide? Just to clear up any remaining confusion.
(07-24-2020, 12:57 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: [ -> ]So to clarify, does this mean (for example) Cryer ID can't collect a bounty payout for shooting Outcasts in the Taus (anymore), even though Outcasts are valid combat targets for them Sirius wide? Just to clear up any remaining confusion.

No. Cryer ID'd ships can still receive money as part of a bounty - we don't police who pays who where, unless it's lack of payment.

Cryer ID can't attack ships to claim a bounty outside of ZoI - if OCs can be attacked anywhere, then that's fine. If they try to attack a Red Hessian ship in Rheinland using the "claim bounty" attack reason, then that's a rulebreak.

Again, this is for engagement rights.
Do we really need sponsorship to be legit thing? This seems rare thing to happen and also means that unofficial faction outsources their activity to others, usually not really increasing activity but just increasing BHG payouts. Get rid of this crap and you make one rule much more simple and cleaner.