08-23-2009, 04:02 PM
First thing, lets get this straight. This is not a complaint thread, or a request for a nerf.
This is also not a discussion, this is a direct question to the developers/balance team. It's simply a question about a detail I came across today regarding the Kusari Explorer.
I'm not much of a Gunboat pilot, but I'm messed around with them in openSP, and I know a Rogue Gunboat can only fire 3 Razors before its power plant is completely drained. So it struck me as odd when I fought a Kusari Explorer today which was continuously chainfiring three or four razors. It was bothering me and I couldn't sleep, so I decided to check it out, tested it in game first, then checked it's stats in FLstat and in the ini files.
To say the least, I was shocked. This gunboat has the largest Gunboat powerplant available (I figured that much myself) but not only that, it appears to turn faster than a lot of other Gunboats in the game, and has more Bots/Bats than any other Gunboat save the Salvage Frigate. It's only down side appears to be that it has 100,00 armour, which isn't even the lowest Gunboat armour. I don't really understand fully how the turning values work with Freelancer. I checked the ini files, and it seems to me that the Kusari Explorer also turns very fast for a 'heavy' Gunboat, and It certainly doesn't feel much slower than a Rogue Gunboat. I have my doubts, but from looking at the values it looks to be the case. Size comparisons in hardCMP reveal that this Gunboat isn't extraordinarily large either, the Bretonian Gunboat has a larger front profile, and although the Rhienland Gunboat has a narrow front profile, it has a larger side profile than the Kusari Explorer. On top of that, the Gunboat also boasts 7 turrets, while the majority of Gunboats only sport 6, with only very few Gunboats mounting 7 or 8.
What is the justification for this balance? I'm curious, and while it's nice to finally have a Gunboat that can take down a swarm of bombers, it seems odd that the Kusari Explorer is the one to do it.
It doesn't appear to be a skill factor, either. The same pilot two days ago flew an Outcast Gunship with full OC basics, and was easily destroyed by two Barghests without a scratch. Today, in a Kusari Explorer with three Razors, he's slaughtering squads of 4+ bombers in seconds. Sure, that's what Gunboats are supposed to do, I'm not denying that, or asking that Gunboats be incapable of that. (tbh I'm sick of gunboats being so easy to kill...) it just seems odd to me that the majority of Gunboats are incapable of this same feat, and that the Kusari Explorer is the one to do it.
It also seems very uncharacteristic of a Kusari corporation to build a large, heavy combat ship with a massive power core. It is in complete contrast to the typical Kusari combat ship. In fact, is the Explorer even a combat ship?
So, the facts are all out on the table, and something doesn't add up. So I'm asking what the deal is with the Kusari Explorer. Why it, and not other Gunboats? Other Gunboats could stand to be more like the Kusari Explorer, and I certainly haven't fought any other Gunboats that can even get close to killing a Bomber, let alone four. (each Gb being better than 4 bombers in a bit extreme. But he caught us all off guard with that tactic and we didn't know wtf to do xD)
Now I have to go try sleep. 3am, damn insomnia.
This is also not a discussion, this is a direct question to the developers/balance team. It's simply a question about a detail I came across today regarding the Kusari Explorer.
I'm not much of a Gunboat pilot, but I'm messed around with them in openSP, and I know a Rogue Gunboat can only fire 3 Razors before its power plant is completely drained. So it struck me as odd when I fought a Kusari Explorer today which was continuously chainfiring three or four razors. It was bothering me and I couldn't sleep, so I decided to check it out, tested it in game first, then checked it's stats in FLstat and in the ini files.
To say the least, I was shocked. This gunboat has the largest Gunboat powerplant available (I figured that much myself) but not only that, it appears to turn faster than a lot of other Gunboats in the game, and has more Bots/Bats than any other Gunboat save the Salvage Frigate. It's only down side appears to be that it has 100,00 armour, which isn't even the lowest Gunboat armour. I don't really understand fully how the turning values work with Freelancer. I checked the ini files, and it seems to me that the Kusari Explorer also turns very fast for a 'heavy' Gunboat, and It certainly doesn't feel much slower than a Rogue Gunboat. I have my doubts, but from looking at the values it looks to be the case. Size comparisons in hardCMP reveal that this Gunboat isn't extraordinarily large either, the Bretonian Gunboat has a larger front profile, and although the Rhienland Gunboat has a narrow front profile, it has a larger side profile than the Kusari Explorer. On top of that, the Gunboat also boasts 7 turrets, while the majority of Gunboats only sport 6, with only very few Gunboats mounting 7 or 8.
What is the justification for this balance? I'm curious, and while it's nice to finally have a Gunboat that can take down a swarm of bombers, it seems odd that the Kusari Explorer is the one to do it.
It doesn't appear to be a skill factor, either. The same pilot two days ago flew an Outcast Gunship with full OC basics, and was easily destroyed by two Barghests without a scratch. Today, in a Kusari Explorer with three Razors, he's slaughtering squads of 4+ bombers in seconds. Sure, that's what Gunboats are supposed to do, I'm not denying that, or asking that Gunboats be incapable of that. (tbh I'm sick of gunboats being so easy to kill...) it just seems odd to me that the majority of Gunboats are incapable of this same feat, and that the Kusari Explorer is the one to do it.
It also seems very uncharacteristic of a Kusari corporation to build a large, heavy combat ship with a massive power core. It is in complete contrast to the typical Kusari combat ship. In fact, is the Explorer even a combat ship?
So, the facts are all out on the table, and something doesn't add up. So I'm asking what the deal is with the Kusari Explorer. Why it, and not other Gunboats? Other Gunboats could stand to be more like the Kusari Explorer, and I certainly haven't fought any other Gunboats that can even get close to killing a Bomber, let alone four. (each Gb being better than 4 bombers in a bit extreme. But he caught us all off guard with that tactic and we didn't know wtf to do xD)
Now I have to go try sleep. 3am, damn insomnia.