12-27-2009, 04:56 PM
Since there is now also confusion regarding these two rules, I'm making this topic. In line with questions asked the last time I made one of these topics - it's not in big glowing letters yet, but it will be when the question and answer period is done.
So the first rule is pretty self-explanatory - or is it? The key thing here is that ramming applies to warships ONLY. That's right - it doesn't apply to freighters, transports, or liners. Oops!
Now - we all know that UNINTENTIONAL ramming occurs all the time in fleet combat. That's basically a given about the time you get two battleships at ranges of less than 100, or a bomber comes in on a strafing run with his SNAC. Some ramming cannot be avoided - and we know that. But the key thing here is intentional ramming. A fighter comes flying in without even shooting at you and knocks you all over the sky - that's intentional. So don't do that, m'kay?
Second rule is ship classes. Again, should be pretty clear, but apparently isn't.
Is it small fry? Then for ship classification purposes, it's considered a fighter. The reason this is specified is that ID's state what you're allowed to fly.
For example, the recruit ID says that you can fly fighters and freighters. So you want to fly a super-heavy fighter as a recruit? Cool, go ahead and do so. You want to fly that Armored Transport as a Recruit? Whoops, hold size is 800, so nope. (As opposed to the Ragnar Armored Transport, which has a hold of 600.) That also means you can tool around with a BorderWorlds FREIGHTER...
Oh, did you want to rep yourself up as a recruit by going ahead and picking up that gunboat? Oops - sorry, that's NOT a freighter. You can't fly it.
Here's another things - Liners are now CALLED Liners, and are not considered to be Transports. So if your ID doesn't say you can fly a Liner - then you can't. Look at the Bounty Hunter ID's - Prison Liners only. Kushiro, for example, can fly the Kusari Liner ONLY - no one else's liner. Ageira can't fly ANY liners.
And of course, note that Yachts are considered Transports, not Liners.
Of course, remember that one addendum to the rules as well. At this time, freighters are NOT exempt from destruction by cruiser class or larger warships.
Additional discussion points on THESE two points are welcome here. Once we get things finalized, I'll re-edit this and pin it, like we did before with 5.2.
Quote:5.4 Intentional ramming of capital ships (gunboat-class or larger) by fighters and other capital ships is not allowed in PvP combat, as well as in any other situations.
6.8 For purposes of the server rules, the following ship classes are defined:
a) All light fighters, heavy fighters, very heavy fighters, super heavy fighters, and bombers are considered fighters;
b) Trader ships with cargo hold less than 650 units are considered freighters;
c) Trader ships with cargo hold more than 650 units are considered transports;
d) Liners are named as such. Yachts are -not- Liners, they are transports
e) Gunboats, cruisers (including destroyers and battlecruisers), battleships (including dreadnoughts and juggernauts) are considered capital ships.
So the first rule is pretty self-explanatory - or is it? The key thing here is that ramming applies to warships ONLY. That's right - it doesn't apply to freighters, transports, or liners. Oops!
Now - we all know that UNINTENTIONAL ramming occurs all the time in fleet combat. That's basically a given about the time you get two battleships at ranges of less than 100, or a bomber comes in on a strafing run with his SNAC. Some ramming cannot be avoided - and we know that. But the key thing here is intentional ramming. A fighter comes flying in without even shooting at you and knocks you all over the sky - that's intentional. So don't do that, m'kay?
Second rule is ship classes. Again, should be pretty clear, but apparently isn't.
Is it small fry? Then for ship classification purposes, it's considered a fighter. The reason this is specified is that ID's state what you're allowed to fly.
For example, the recruit ID says that you can fly fighters and freighters. So you want to fly a super-heavy fighter as a recruit? Cool, go ahead and do so. You want to fly that Armored Transport as a Recruit? Whoops, hold size is 800, so nope. (As opposed to the Ragnar Armored Transport, which has a hold of 600.) That also means you can tool around with a BorderWorlds FREIGHTER...
Oh, did you want to rep yourself up as a recruit by going ahead and picking up that gunboat? Oops - sorry, that's NOT a freighter. You can't fly it.
Here's another things - Liners are now CALLED Liners, and are not considered to be Transports. So if your ID doesn't say you can fly a Liner - then you can't. Look at the Bounty Hunter ID's - Prison Liners only. Kushiro, for example, can fly the Kusari Liner ONLY - no one else's liner. Ageira can't fly ANY liners.
And of course, note that Yachts are considered Transports, not Liners.
Of course, remember that one addendum to the rules as well. At this time, freighters are NOT exempt from destruction by cruiser class or larger warships.
Additional discussion points on THESE two points are welcome here. Once we get things finalized, I'll re-edit this and pin it, like we did before with 5.2.