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So after few years of playing here I decided that I would finaly buy myself a Liberty Dredy - my wish from the start - and start making some fun RP in the most populated systems.

What I am afraid the MOST is that I will abuse the power granted to me and I will simply do it wrong what I am trying to avoid and this post is simply for it.

So let's begin:

1.Alaska - in Alaska I can shoot anyone who hasn't permission including transports = question: Where is the list of possible Permitted Users? Apart of that - minefield infront of the Alaska JG in NY is restricted too - can I open fire on possible threats there with minimal RP and can I destroy incomming tresspasers even if they are on transports? I am not asking for RP tip here - I am asking if this is all right with the ServerRules - I can RP myself.

2.Blocade runners - I heard about it but I want to be sure - If I see a pirate transport with a smuggler ID carrying cardamine so If I red the laws right - Pirate transport = forbidden , Cardamine = contraband - if there is no one who can stop such person should I bother or it is simply not my job as a Capital ship captain?
Do I have any right to fire upon blocade runnners / smugglers? Or it is without exceptions and rules are rules here. No shooting transports with caps.

3.I would apreciate some links to places where are standing orders for the secondary fleet and some directives what primary fleet is currently planning or wants the fleet to do. If so - please give me the links.

4.What are the fines for breaking the laws of liberty...I didn't see any so far - are there any at all?

5.What is the ZoI of Navy Guard - apart of liberty main systems - NY, Colorado,California,Virginia,Texas what's next and what are the rules of possible raids on Rheinland? Are there any regulations about those?
What about the Rheinland corporations - are we ment to shoot them on sight, turn them back to Rheinland or escort out of Liberty? That's more like global question not only for the CAPS I am more asking here about the Liberty Navy directives.

6.What about the treaty of Bethlehem - can someone made it a little quicker , I will read it when I get the time but a short version would be useful.

7.What about the Order what are our directives about them - apart of that we are at war with them - My question is - are we ment to atack Minor or only prevent Order vessels from entering Alaska and Liberty? I am not sure about the diplomatic issues here.

For now it is it. I will add some more if I find something I do not understand.

i'll try to answer you from my experience as a LNS:

1) Roleplay and you'll be fine. The rules says you can shoot transport, but of course you'll have to give them some roleplay. Regarding permitted users.. if a [LN] is online ,ask to them. If no one is online, i just escort the intruder outside. If he tries to run, i shoot at him.

2) You can't attack transport in a Dreadnought, no matter if the transport was smuggling. The only thing you could do, to help someone who is already chasing the smuggler, is to disrupt the lane, or keep the gate busy, nothing else.

3) Don't know.

4) Check the guard id again,

Quote:Pilot carrying this ID is in the Liberty Navy Guard, who :
Can destroy traders in Liberty who belong to corporations headquartered in Houses that Liberty is at war with if the trader refuses to drop all cargo and leave Liberty.
Can trade and escort traders
Can operate within Alaska and Nomad infested systems (excluding Omicron Alpha and Gamma)
Can demand contraband, levy fines and destroy ships if they refuse to comply in a gunboat or smaller (cruisers and battleships may only demand allied pilots)
Can hunt pirates and terrorists within their Zone of Influence
Cannot ally with any unlawfuls except with the Xenos against non-Liberty pirate or military invasions
Cannot participate in any unlawful actions
Cannot fulfill bounty contracts
Cannot use any transports with more than 4,300 cargo

5) Alaska and Texas, Bering, Hudson. Those are the system in which i would expect to see a big capital ship of the Navy. (Virginia too of course)

6) Don't know, but see point 5), you shoudn't be there anyway IMHO.

7) I always only defended Alaska.

as for 5.) Don't forget that there's also a battlefield in New Hampshire/Bremen

Correct, i actually forgot.

5) House navies use Battleships to patrol and hunt down criminals. DOn't believe me? Look at the infocards of every Vanilla dockable battleships.

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' Wrote:Which are all stationary...

According to their infocards, they actively patrol. The York* (in the Leeds system) regularly patrols (patrolled, rather) all of Tau-23 before the war.

*: Could be the Derby, too, but I know that one of the Leeds battleship actively patrolled Tau-32 and basically only was in Leeds for maintenance in Vanilla.

EDIT: I seriously dunno the name of the Taus. But I still know it was being patrolled.

I'll try my best.

' Wrote:So let's begin:

1.Alaska - in Alaska I can shoot anyone who hasn't permission including transports = question: Where is the list of possible Permitted Users? Apart of that - minefield infront of the Alaska JG in NY is restricted too - can I open fire on possible threats there with minimal RP and can I destroy incomming tresspasers even if they are on transports? I am not asking for RP tip here - I am asking if this is all right with the ServerRules - I can RP myself.

Only LSF/LN ID's (and their respective Guard IDs) are legally allowed to be in there. There is the odd exception though. Announce your intentions of blowing them up or whatever, and if they say they're allowed, I suggest you call for backup (that has a CD). The backup can hold them there so you can alt-tab and do a quick search of their ship name on the forum, and if you see they're allowed, let them go, if not, do whatever. Or ask a [LN].

At Zone 21, make sure you SS any transport engagements to protect yourself. Probably best to get your notice and him in Z21 in the same pic. If he leaves Z21, you are still free to blow him up.

Quote:2.Blocade runners - I heard about it but I want to be sure - If I see a pirate transport with a smuggler ID carrying cardamine so If I red the laws right - Pirate transport = forbidden , Cardamine = contraband - if there is no one who can stop such person should I bother or it is simply not my job as a Capital ship captain?
Do I have any right to fire upon blocade runnners / smugglers? Or it is without exceptions and rules are rules here. No shooting transports with caps.

Nope, you may not open fire.

Quote:3.I would apreciate some links to places where are standing orders for the secondary fleet and some directives what primary fleet is currently planning or wants the fleet to do. If so - please give me the links.

Liberty Cap Ship Registry

I think that's all.

Quote:4.What are the fines for breaking the laws of liberty...I didn't see any so far - are there any at all?

Depends on the crime really. And how nice they are. >.>

Up to you really. I personally wouldn't go over 5 mil unless they really, really annoyed me. Though fining people in a dread probably won't work.

Quote:5.What is the ZoI of Navy Guard - apart of liberty main systems - NY, Colorado,California,Virginia,Texas what's next and what are the rules of possible raids on Rheinland? Are there any regulations about those?
What about the Rheinland corporations - are we ment to shoot them on sight, turn them back to Rheinland or escort out of Liberty? That's more like global question not only for the CAPS I am more asking here about the Liberty Navy directives.

Liberty systems, systems like Bering and Hudson, Hamburg (on a raid), and New Hampshire (maybe Bremen. Dunno.)

If your raiding Rheinland, try to make sure it's not all caps. Have some fighters or bombers as well.

If the Rheinland corps refuse to leave, blow them up. Although I don't know about the cap-trader rule here.

Quote:6.What about the treaty of Bethlehem - can someone made it a little quicker , I will read it when I get the time but a short version would be useful.

The treaty is no longer in effect with the CoZ disbanding.

Quote:7.What about the Order what are our directives about them - apart of that we are at war with them - My question is - are we ment to atack Minor or only prevent Order vessels from entering Alaska and Liberty? I am not sure about the diplomatic issues here.

For now it is it. I will add some more if I find something I do not understand.

Prevent them from entering Alaska and Liberty. We don't really raid them.

' Wrote:According to their infocards, they actively patrol. The York* (in the Leeds system) regularly patrols (patrolled, rather) all of Tau-23 before the war.

*: Could be the Derby, too, but I know that one of the Leeds battleship actively patrolled Tau-32 and basically only was in Leeds for maintenance in Vanilla.

EDIT: I seriously dunno the name of the Taus. But I still know it was being patrolled.

While this has nothing to do with Liberty laws or server rules. It is a statement about vanilla lore. What they meant by "regularly patrols" is that they send out fighter squadrons to patrol the systems, rather than the Battleship itself.

' Wrote:While this has nothing to do with Liberty laws or server rules. It is a statement about vanilla lore. What they meant by "regularly patrols" is that they send out fighter squadrons to patrol the systems, rather than the Battleship itself.

The ship itself still was in Tau-Idunno.