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I'm trying to confirm rules and am presenting the following as a hypothetical scenario. This did not happen.

Let's say I have a BAF gunship (I don't) with a matching BAF Guard ID. I get a report of suspicious activity in a system that borders house space, but does not lie within it, somewhere like Dundee or Cortez. Upon my arrival, I encounter a Kusari transport ship, a Kusari naval ship, and a Lane Hacker ship (an unlawful that not "at war" with BAF) [these are all player ships, not NPCs]. As I understand it:

I am not allowed to destroy the transport unless he fires on me first, since I am outside of house space.

I am allowed to destroy the naval ship, since we are "at war" and therefore hostile all the time everywhere. The ID does not explicitly say this, but my assumption is that if I meet a militant that I am "at war" with, anywhere in Sirius, combat is okay to go.

I am not allowed to destroy the Lane Hacker unless he fires on me first, since I am only allowed to hunt unlawfuls within house space. Or is a neighboring system considered a Zone of Influence and so it's alright to egnabung the criminal? This goes both ways--he would not be able to open fire on me either since that ID is also restricted to zone of influence. We are not at war so it comes down to where do the zones of influence stop?

Now of course somebody might get twitchy and shoot without thinking through all of this. In that case, is any of the above sanctionable, or is it only sanctionable if there is a pattern of abuse? Like, if I take my BAF ship to a system with Lane Hacker presence to kill them, I assume that's sanctionable. What about the opposite, where a pirate faction takes their ships outside their ZoI to hunt routinely?

Thanks for the discussion
If its a bordering system to your house space consider none of what you mentioned sanctionable and within RP.
Dundee is essentially Bretonian space, and Bretonia actually signed a treaty permitting them to 'police' Cortez with Liberty. (read: Treaty of Curacao)

As Veygaar said, It'd be fine for you to shoot at any or all of those listed targets.
' Wrote:If its a bordering system to your house space consider none of what you mentioned sanctionable and within RP.
That would certainly make it simple.

At what point beyond that does it become sanctionable? I saw a Red Hessian demanding tribute from a Navy fighter in NY as pretext for attacking, way outside the ZOI--sanctionable? The ID seems to allow it but also doesn't allow it

Quote:Can demand credits or cargo from traders and unallied smugglers or factions
Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within their Zone of Influence

Can demand credits from [...] unallied [...] factions -versus- Can engage [...] lawfuls within ZoI
' Wrote:That would certainly make it simple.

At what point beyond that does it become sanctionable? I saw a Red Hessian demanding tribute in NY, way outside the ZOI--sanctionable?
They've been known to go there... Really depends on the circumstances I suppose. Take it up with RHA I'd say.
Gunboats can attack transports anyways, its just dessies and bigger that cant. Plus youd need to be part of the official faction to be able to shoot trans with dessie+, even inside house space.
ouse Space


Bretonia

Leeds
New London
Dublin
Manchester
Newcastle
Cambridge

Kusari

New Tokyo
Hokkaido
Honshu
Kyushu
Shikoku

Rheinland

New Berlin
Dresden
Hamburg
Frankfurt
Munich
Stuttgart

Liberty

New York
Texas
California
Colorado
Alaska
Ontario

Gallia

Champagne
Burgundy
Dauphine

House space defined per rules, what factions define per RP is not considered valid. However you are free to claim space in RP and do the stuff written in your ID- it means you can shoot both of them.
Official Faction ZoIs must be clearly made by the official factions when they apply for officialism so the admins could decide if they agree with it or not, Red Hessian cannot tax you in NY since in RP he have no work there except smuggling for example so you can sanction him.
Is there an official list of ZOIs somewhere

In the old all in one faction topic every faction had its own preview and ZoI.
Now your best bet is here:
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showforum=98
and in the wiki , however wiki info is not always up to date.
"Liberty

New York
Texas
California
Colorado
Alaska
Ontario"

Don't they also claim Kansas, Alberta and even Yukon?
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