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Bounty hunting and all, and maybe policing in general - Pinko - 01-25-2010
Sooo, in the future, every cop is Lawful stupid (For any evil deed, the sentence is death, usually. or if you don't pay the fine, sentence is death), and murdering people for credits is a common thing and is supported by the law, if I understand well?
Bounty hunting and all, and maybe policing in general - Mounteblanc - 01-25-2010
So, you have an issue with Bounty Hunting?
Well, as far as I know, the law only supports bounties on criminals.
But, hey, this is Freelancer, it doesn't need to make sense.
Bounty hunting and all, and maybe policing in general - Pinko - 01-25-2010
' Wrote:So, you have an issue with Bounty Hunting?
Well, as far as I know, the law only supports bounties on criminals.
But, hey, this is Freelancer, it doesn't need to make sense.
No, with murdering people coldly, I guess.
Bounty hunting and all, and maybe policing in general - Mounteblanc - 01-25-2010
' Wrote:No, with murdering people coldly, I guess.
Nah, the lawfuls are just lazy. They don't want to go through the whole 'you're under arrest!' thing. It, *ahem* takes too long.
But, remember, most of the people being killed are classifiable as "Armed and Highly Dangerous" to the civilian populace.
Bounty hunting and all, and maybe policing in general - Pinko - 01-25-2010
' Wrote:Nah, the lawfuls are just lazy. They don't want to go through the whole 'you're under arrest!' thing. It, *ahem* takes too long.
But, remember, most of the people being killed are classifiable as "Armed and Highly Dangerous" to the civilian populace.
Sometimes, when I get caught by the cops, the line ''STOP! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW'' comes to mind.
Except my only choices are Pay fine/Resist arrest.
Edit: PAY FINE
RESIST ARREST <--
[01:31:44] Rob (Mr.Virus): Bounty on the Grey Fox mask: 4million
Bounty hunting and all, and maybe policing in general - Baltar - 01-25-2010
@ Gauss 3.2: There's a difference between a bounty and a hit ... and between a Bounty Hunter and a Hitman.
1. A BOUNTY is contract on an individual for breaking the law ... the Bounty Hunter collecting the bounty is aware that a law was broken and is provided evidence of this ... thus the bounty is legal to collect.
2. A HIT is contract on an individual for reasons beyond the law ... the Hitman collecting the bounty does not care what the reason is ... he just wants to collect the cash. In this case ... the Hitman might actually be breaking the law by collecting on an innocent individual ... and the individual marked for the hit might actually be a law abiding citizen.
If there's no evidence of wrong doing ... its not a bounty ... its a hit. In this case ... you better hope the guy you're hunting down is guilty ... otherwise you're committing murder and thus acting unlawfully.
Bounty hunting and all, and maybe policing in general - Exsiled_one - 01-25-2010
The problem you see here is that (if you didn't notice) most of npcs have pilot in them representing it.
So do missions where you have to either terminate or capture someone. After you blow up their ship, they usually eject because they're hoping you'll tractor them in (noone wants to die)
That's when bounty hunters tractor you in and put you in their base for the money collection.
Police does the same thing.
Bounty hunting and all, and maybe policing in general - Pinko - 01-25-2010
' Wrote:The problem you see here is that (if you didn't notice) most of npcs have pilot in them representing it.
So do missions where you have to either terminate or capture someone. After you blow up their ship, they usually eject because they're hoping you'll tractor them in (noone wants to die)
That's when bounty hunters tractor you in and put you in their base for the money collection.
Police does the same thing.
If a player posts a bounty, he wants the person dead. (Even if the person won,t die.)
Bounty hunting and all, and maybe policing in general - Exsiled_one - 01-25-2010
Depends on what bounty actually. Lawful bounties usually just bring light to the criminal that's already wanted by the House Lawfuls, this only greases up the things to catch him (All unlawful ID persons are wanted btw)
So when bounty hunters destroy his ship he's basically "captured" not "dead"
Ofcourse it could be dead as well, but I certainly wouldn't base the thing on "lawful stupid" from what I've seen at missions. But yeah I get what you mean, sadly game mechanics cannot support capturing.
But Roleplay can. it was more than few times when a house roleplayed having a prison liner and then unlawfuls attacking it to break their own free.
Bounty hunting and all, and maybe policing in general - Zeltak - 01-25-2010
In theory you are right, but in practicality you are wrong due to limited game mechanics.
Because the House Police's primary work (arresting people) cannot be accomplished due to the Freelancer game mechanics. You can in Role-Play arrest someone, but can you really "escort him to prison"? Say, LPI Prison Sugarland? You can't because the affiliation of that base is hostile to the pirate making it impossible for him to dock so he can be "put in prison".
So what choices to they have? Well, either the law-breaker can pay a fine, or get killed. That's like the only two reasonable options in-game. Sure, you can arrest someone and do much more creative stuff if you put your mind to it, but the Pirate must work with you on your idea. If you try to play the cop-guy against a random Pirate it isn't that easy. Maybe the Pirate dosen't want to be (in Role-Play) inside a prison cell. It leaves the cop to one choice, shoot the guy down.
And here is the main issue. There is a reason why there is such a low interest in Police Factions (in all houses) compared to their respective Navy/Military branches. Because the two are almost doing exactly the same thing, shooting bad guys. To top it off, the Navy/Military has more options in terms of vessels and technology, it is natural for players to prefer that type of faction rather than a Police one.