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Kusari "White Wolf" - Xing - 12-01-2008
how does your argument is valid? This is not a standard fighter craft, it is designed to be a "unique" class to complete the rheinland unqiue, liberty unique, and probably soon enough the bretonian unique. So, what are you concerned with mixing class weaponnery? This concern is plain ridiculous... hence the association with battlecruisers having no guns of their own. Why dont you whine on that too, sir?
Kusari "White Wolf" - Dennis Jameson - 12-01-2008
my main argument is that no fighter should be able to mount an oversized gun without having ti give up certain other aspects.
For example, a gunboat forward gun on a fighter would require an oversized generator which would directly have an effect on the drive systems and shields.
I'm sorry for being a bit "blunt", and borderline rude, but i think it's a valid thing to discuss... You can't have everything on one ship, even if it's a "super" version of something.
Kusari "White Wolf" - bluntpencil2001 - 12-01-2008
Forward guns use normal fighter gun slots. At present you can mount gunboat forward cannons on fighters, but you don't have the power to fire them.
If you gave this ship the power to fire a forward gun. Do NOT give it a torp slot, otherwisr it would abuse supernovas.
Kusari "White Wolf" - Xing - 12-01-2008
of course. But I dont think forward guns are really useful right now, what with their very limited movement. If it was more mobile... then, scrap the torpedoes and missiles... you have the space tank.
Kusari "White Wolf" - bluntpencil2001 - 12-01-2008
I believe the mobility depends on the hardpoint, not the gun itself.
Kusari "White Wolf" - mjolnir - 12-01-2008
Fighter with forward gun will be much less useful than bomber with a supernova => no reason to use it.
If it gets "own" forward gun with better efficiency, them gb's can mount it as well. If it gets a similar one.. it will need GB powerplant as well... and suddenly... we have a new Kusari GB - forward gun and little other guns. But hey why use this then again when Kusari GB offers the same thing with presumably lower agility, but much more shields and armor as well as beeing more allround?
I have spend 10 updates and some 8 hours twitching with different stats for a special nova torp for rheinland superbomber only to finally conclude that the torp is either uber or useless and for 95% of anti-BS fight people will use the SN instead anyway.
Hence my skepticism.
Kusari "White Wolf" - bluntpencil2001 - 12-01-2008
Then let's not give it a forward gun.
Maybe 8 Class 10 slots, and the power to fire them. Just.
Kusari "White Wolf" - Eboksba - 12-01-2008
dang it, double post.
Kusari "White Wolf" - Eboksba - 12-01-2008
Personally, i love it.
However, i'm thinking that this should be a little lighter, like a miniature version of the gunboat. Light enough for small police factions or permits, but heavy enough to give people a run for their money.
Having a forward cannon would classify this under another class, more towards "battlecruiser" than super heavy fighter.
As for the engine, ya, keep it small so that it can't fire excessivly huge things. Smallerish, if that makes sence.
If we were to put a forward gun on it, i think that it should be more of a hull killer than a shield killer. Not much d/mg on the shield so much, as to keep it line with what the idea would 'go with'.
Personally, i'd love to have battlecruisers. But it would involve a lot more work for all the houses.
Kusari "White Wolf" - Xing - 12-01-2008
It is definitively not designed for the main factions. The reason why I painted it silvery white represents its special status, really. Reason why it is for the KNF Guard.
and reason why I want some special stats for it to be a unique class.