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RE: Discovery Mining Guide - Helo - 10-22-2023
Let's assume that mining bonuses weren't changed. HERE is list of of all ore sell points as per 22.10.23
RE: Discovery Mining Guide - Karyoplasma - 10-24-2023
Mining bonuses as per minecontrol.cfg for version 5.00.0.0 (last file change was Oct 05, 2023):
General:
All Ship classes <= 5 (all fighters and freighters) get a bonus of 1.2 to everything.
Using a Deployable Mining Container gives a bonus of 1.05 to everything.
Independent IDs:
IMG
Niobium - 3.0
Silver - 2.0
Gold - 2.0
Uncut Diamonds - 2.0
Platinum - 2.0
DSE
Copper - 3.0
Silver - 3.0
Platinum - 3.0
BMM
Gold - 3.0
Niobium - 3.0
Silver - 3.0
Uncut Diamonds - 2.0
Planetform
Copper - 2.0
Samura
Helium-3 - 3.0
Platinum - 3.0
Niobium - 2.0
Kishiro
Helium-3 - 3.0
Platinum - 3.0
GMG
Helium-3 - 3.0
DHC Daumann
Uncut Diamonds - 3.0
Aluminium - 3.0
Silver - 3.0
Kruger
Uncut Diamonds - 3.0
Aluminium - 3.0
Silver - 3.0
Helium-3 - 2.0
GMS
Molybdenum - 3.0
Niobium - 3.0
Zoners
Iridium - 3.0
Bristol
Copper - 3.0
Order
Azurite Gas - 3.0
Iridium - 3.0
Xeno Relics - 3.0
Core
Azurite Gas - 3.0
Iridium - 3.0
Xeno Relics - 3.0
Mollys
Gold - 3.0
Red Hessians
Uncut Diamonds - 2.0
Corsairs
Xeno Relics - 3.0
Gold - 3.0
Xenos
Copper - 3.0
Outcasts
Xeno Relics - 3.0
Niobium - 2.0
Artificial Intelligence
Iridium - 3.0
Azurite Gas - 3.0
Freelancer
Helium - 3.0
ALG, EFL, Junkers got all of their bonuses removed.
Official IDs:
BMF| Bretonia Mining and Fabrication
Gold - 4.0
Uncut Diamonds - 4.0
Silver - 3.0
Niobium - 2.0
OSI-
Iridium - 3.0
Phoenix
Iridium - 4.0
Order|
Azurite Gas - 4.0
Iridium - 4.0
Xeno Relics - 4.0
HS> Malta Hyperspace Starfleet
Xeno Relics - 4.0
Niobium - 2.0
Samura| Samura Heavy Industries
Platinum - 4.0
Helium-3 - 3.0
Niobium - 2.0
XA- Xenos Alliance
Copper - 3.0
Kruger| Kruger Mineralien
Aluminium - 4.0
Uncut Diamonds - 4.0
Silver - 3.0
Helium-3 - 2.0
{DHC} Daumann Heavy Construction
Uncut Diamonds - 4.0
Aluminium - 4.0
Silver - 3.0
[TBH] The Brotherhood
Xeno Relics - 4.0
Gold - 3.0
DTR- The Deterrence
Xeno Relics - 4.0
Gold - 3.0
GMG| Gas Miners Guild
Helium-3 - 4.0
Core| The Core
Xeno Relics - 4.0
Azurite Gas - 4.0
Iridium - 3.0
IMG| Independent Miners Guild
Niobium - 4.0
Gold - 3.0
Uncut Diamonds - 3.0
Silver - 3.0
Platinum - 2.0
SRP 12 - B|-BCV-Pittsburgh
Iridium - 1.5
Aluminium - 1.5
Copper - 3.0
Gold - 1.5
Helium-3 - 1.5
Niobium - 1.5
Platinum - 1.5
Uncut Diamonds - 1.5
Silver - 1.5
Starlight Research Consortium
Iridium - 3.0
.:j:. Junkers Congress and B|- Bristol Construction & Manufacturing got all their bonuses removed.
RE: Discovery Mining Guide - Vulkhard Muller - 10-24-2023
(10-24-2023, 11:04 AM)Karyoplasma Wrote: .:j:. Junkers Congress and B|- Bristol Construction & Manufacturing got all their bonuses removed.
Hey Can I get a Dev/Admin Confirmation on this?
RE: Discovery Mining Guide - Aingar - 10-24-2023
Bristol is mislabeled as "Zoners" aka dsy_license_ga_sol_grp. They have copper mining bonuses.
As for Junkers, they've had bonuses on mining Premium and Regular Scrap, but in this patch, Premium Scrap got removed, and all scrap fields in Sirius got reactivated to drop regular scrap. Regular scrap is mined at a very high speed, so any bonuses wouldn't really mean anything really. Instead, Junkers have efficiency bonuses on scrap processing refineries on POBs.
RE: Discovery Mining Guide - Haste - 10-24-2023
We may also (re)add a MilSal field or two - likely overlapping with regular scrap fields - in the future and bonus Junkers there so they get higher yields, but those are future plans.
RE: Discovery Mining Guide - NOVA-5 - 10-24-2023
(10-24-2023, 11:04 AM)Karyoplasma Wrote: Mining bonuses as per minecontrol.cfg for version 5.00.0.0 (last file change was Oct 05, 2023):
ALG, EFL, Junkers got all of their bonuses removed.
.:j:. Junkers Congress and B|- Bristol Construction & Manufacturing got all their bonuses removed.
Junkers & Congress never had any bonus's to start with, or perks even.
RE: Discovery Mining Guide - Sally - 10-24-2023
(10-24-2023, 12:14 PM)Aingar Wrote: Regular scrap is mined at a very high speed, so any bonuses wouldn't really mean anything really.
I'm pretty sure generic IDs (Freelancer and Pirate) still have much worse drop rate than any nongeneric ID, including IDs that usually do not mine, let alone collect scrap, like Outcasts. Is this intended or a bug?
RE: Discovery Mining Guide - Aingar - 10-24-2023
(10-24-2023, 12:23 PM)Sally Wrote:(10-24-2023, 12:14 PM)Aingar Wrote: Regular scrap is mined at a very high speed, so any bonuses wouldn't really mean anything really.
I'm pretty sure generic IDs (Freelancer and Pirate) still have much worse drop rate than any nongeneric ID, including IDs that usually do not mine, let alone collect scrap, like Outcasts. Is this intended or a bug?
All factions/IDs mine all the 'low tier' mining commodities at the exact same speed. Those include
Scrap Metal
Water
Oxygen
Toxic Waste
Hydrocarbons
Alien Organisms
Uranium
RE: Discovery Mining Guide - Sally - 10-24-2023
(10-24-2023, 12:29 PM)Aingar Wrote: All factions/IDs mine all the 'low tier' mining commodities at the exact same speed.
And all debris and asteroid fields that have these low tier mining commodities drop the same rate? If so I'll have to double check to make sure once again, but I recall that Outcasts could mine 550 units of scrap in less than 5 seconds on the Hispania debris field, the same amount takes much longer on any debris field in NY with a FL ID.
RE: Discovery Mining Guide - Karyoplasma - 10-24-2023
(10-24-2023, 12:14 PM)Aingar Wrote: Bristol is mislabeled as "Zoners" aka dsy_license_ga_sol_grp. They have copper mining bonuses.
I just copied it how it is written in the minecontrol.cfg as I wasn't sure what group the license group referred to. Sorry for the confusion.
Also, you might want to check the bonuses for the "Kruger Mineralien" player faction. Their aluminium ore bonus is specified twice (line 169 and line 171) and I don't know whether it stacks for an 8 times bonus (I don't think it is intended to stack) or is just a duplicate line with no effect.