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RE: Golden Chrysanthemum Gen'an Cell - Feedback - Implosion - 07-12-2022
(07-12-2022, 09:15 PM)xenomorph Wrote:The point I was trying to make flew right past your head, it would seem. Let me rephrase.(07-12-2022, 09:10 PM)Implosion Wrote: tl;dr
Let me be clear.
There was two of you camping the Jumpgate from New Tokyo to Shikoku.
As soon as you saw me, both of you ran away in different directions.
I chased the ship closest to me.
Please, I would appreciate it if you would avoid ridiculing people who give feedback.
Please keep in mind your 1iC ridiculted Samura| for docking in presence of GC-, and your members made fun of |KSP| for "Low PvP Skill."
And quite frankly, |KSP| is a whole lot more representative than this Official Faction. And, I respect them for actually fighting and not avoiding to get killed.
You apparently are good at PVP, that's okay. You log in, kill me and you log off. That's also ok. Thing is, I owe you absolutely nothing. That includes diving into a fight I'm 100% certain I will lose (since I was on a bomber, kitted against bigger ships and certainly not your VHF). I opted not to embarrass myself and flew away. Simple as that.
As for the other stuff you mentioned, you apparently have a lot of history with the GC and you clearly dislike them. That's your right, I don't judge. What's beyond me is, why, if you hate them, you keep chasing after them. I would go as far as to call it "shadowlogging", as I have witnessed your char (the one with the censored name from chat above) log in as soon as GC logs. The opposite is also true, we logged out, you logged out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but your sole purpose in that interaction we had not more than 20 mins ago was to shoot Meg. You knew who flew the ship, your /fms confirmed it. When you failed to accomplish your task, it upset you, maybe even infuriated you and here you are slandering us about previous stuff. That's a weird night to spend your time, dude.
RE: Golden Chrysanthemum Gen'an Cell - Feedback - Shiloh - 07-12-2022
(07-12-2022, 09:24 PM)Megaera Wrote: That 'pob' you speak of is a GC NPC station that is inRP hidden. Nice that you came to visit us there. Couldve called you all out for metagaming which wouldve been factually correct.
Greetings.
I do not recall any rules preventing people from going anywhere, as anyone. inRP, it may be hidden, but it has no repercussion, nor can it be considered metagaming. Just my two cents.
RE: Golden Chrysanthemum Gen'an Cell - Feedback - Implosion - 07-12-2022
(07-12-2022, 09:29 PM)Shiloh Wrote:(07-12-2022, 09:24 PM)Megaera Wrote: That 'pob' you speak of is a GC NPC station that is inRP hidden. Nice that you came to visit us there. Couldve called you all out for metagaming which wouldve been factually correct.
Greetings.
I do not recall any rules preventing people from going anywhere, as anyone. inRP, it may be hidden, but it has no repercussion, nor can it be considered metagaming. Just my two cents.
Yes, but if it's a secret in character, how would you know where to go? That's like the Liberty Navy sending a few thousand nukes for each pirate base in Liberty. You know where the bases are, but your character doesn't. That's why smaller factions still exist. Secrecy and stealth.
RE: Golden Chrysanthemum Gen'an Cell - Feedback - Emperor Tekagi - 07-12-2022
Kind of epic attempt to make us appearing at the base for less than 3 minutes base camping. We flew over the system to check where you are, we saw and NOTICED that you had a 4th man incoming for a solid 4v4.
We found you at your base. You then decided to log off over "metagaming argument" which is pretty poor tbh. Means I'll flip too when I see you nearby FA or Hogosha bases the next time, right? Just cut it out and stop trying to alter things your way.
We were not base camping, yes we actively searched you all out. Yes, with the clear intention of having that 4v4 as we saw your 4th man coming from Kyushu. You decided to log off rather "random" to some of us then. We proceeded to fly back and log off then too.
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SpoilerRE: Golden Chrysanthemum Gen'an Cell - Feedback - Megaera - 07-12-2022
(07-12-2022, 09:29 PM)Shiloh Wrote:(07-12-2022, 09:24 PM)Megaera Wrote: That 'pob' you speak of is a GC NPC station that is inRP hidden. Nice that you came to visit us there. Couldve called you all out for metagaming which wouldve been factually correct.
Greetings.
I do not recall any rules preventing people from going anywhere, as anyone. inRP, it may be hidden, but it has no repercussion, nor can it be considered metagaming. Just my two cents.
Base camping and then calling us out for being at the base when our group wasn't even prepared is just weird, isn't it?
RE: Golden Chrysanthemum Gen'an Cell - Feedback - Kalhmera - 07-12-2022
(07-12-2022, 09:31 PM)Implosion Wrote:(07-12-2022, 09:29 PM)Shiloh Wrote:(07-12-2022, 09:24 PM)Megaera Wrote: That 'pob' you speak of is a GC NPC station that is inRP hidden. Nice that you came to visit us there. Couldve called you all out for metagaming which wouldve been factually correct.
Greetings.
I do not recall any rules preventing people from going anywhere, as anyone. inRP, it may be hidden, but it has no repercussion, nor can it be considered metagaming. Just my two cents.
Yes, but if it's a secret in character, how would you know where to go? That's like the Liberty Navy sending a few thousand nukes for each pirate base in Liberty. You know where the bases are, but your character doesn't. That's why smaller factions still exist. Secrecy and stealth.
Its bad etiquette to go to an unlawful base and just camp. It would be Like Liberty Navy going to Buffalo and shooting Rogues the moment they undock. It just not cool. Let the unlawfuls set up and keep to publicly known areas. While its not a rule people will respect you for that and more often then not want to log again to rp with you.
sorry for barging in though.
RE: Golden Chrysanthemum Gen'an Cell - Feedback - Karlotta - 07-12-2022
(07-12-2022, 09:15 PM)xenomorph Wrote: Please keep in mind your 1iC ridiculted Samura| for docking in presence of GC-, and your members made fun of |KSP| for "Low PvP Skill."
It should be added that not only did the GC 1iC continually ridicule Samura for docking to the point that Samura members who had never even met GCs until then were memed at with "samura dock" by people they never met before, but at the same time, GCs were blowing up Samura ships with minimal RP, no demand, ignoring Samura ship's attempt to RP with GC. (see my previous feedback in this thread)
The GC 1iC also posted deceptively edited logs of an encounter with a Gateway ship on discord, which showed only 1 line of RP and an attempt to dock from Gateway, leaving out logs that showed the encounter was much longer, with more RP form gateway, and the Gateway ship actually waited for GC at an NPC station in order to RP with the GC, only to be destroyed while typing.
When the full logs were posted, they were deleted by a discord moderator who is thankfully no longer a part of the team.
This sort of stuff is the reason why many people I know, including me, avoid kusari even when flying on kusari ships.
So yeah, don't expect GC to change for as long as staff carries water for them.
It's not even about being official, its about the toxic hypocrisy.
RE: Golden Chrysanthemum Gen'an Cell - Feedback - Implosion - 07-12-2022
(07-12-2022, 09:34 PM)Emperor Tekagi Wrote: Kind of epic attempt to make us appearing at the base for less than 3 minutes base camping. We flew over the system to check where you are, we saw and NOTICED that you had a 4th man incoming for a solid 4v4.
We found you at your base. You then decided to log off over "metagaming argument" which is pretty poor tbh. Means I'll flip too when I see you nearby FA or Hogosha bases the next time, right? Just cut it out and stop trying to alter things your way.
We were not base camping, yes we actively searched you all out. Yes, with the clear intention of having that 4v4 as we saw your 4th man coming from Kyushu. You decided to log off rather "random" to some of us then. We proceeded to fly back and log off then too.
Nah, you just came to the base because you knew where we station the ships in that system. No one's gonna believe you accidentally wandered right into us. I mean, you could've searched for us like...at the other GC base for example. Or anywhere else. You precisely went to KKJ, giving zero flakes about how it would look in a Role Playing universe and when people decided to be as far as possible from your group, you complain.
RE: Golden Chrysanthemum Gen'an Cell - Feedback - Emperor Tekagi - 07-12-2022
(07-12-2022, 09:36 PM)Kalhmera Wrote:(07-12-2022, 09:31 PM)Implosion Wrote:(07-12-2022, 09:29 PM)Shiloh Wrote:(07-12-2022, 09:24 PM)Megaera Wrote: That 'pob' you speak of is a GC NPC station that is inRP hidden. Nice that you came to visit us there. Couldve called you all out for metagaming which wouldve been factually correct.
Greetings.
I do not recall any rules preventing people from going anywhere, as anyone. inRP, it may be hidden, but it has no repercussion, nor can it be considered metagaming. Just my two cents.
Yes, but if it's a secret in character, how would you know where to go? That's like the Liberty Navy sending a few thousand nukes for each pirate base in Liberty. You know where the bases are, but your character doesn't. That's why smaller factions still exist. Secrecy and stealth.
Its bad etiquette to go to an unlawful base and just camp. It would be Like Liberty Navy going to Buffalo and shooting Rogues the moment they undock. It just not cool. Let the unlawfuls set up and keep to publicly known areas. While its not a rule people will respect you for that and more often then not want to log again to rp with you.
sorry for barging in though.
(07-12-2022, 09:35 PM)Megaera Wrote:(07-12-2022, 09:29 PM)Shiloh Wrote:(07-12-2022, 09:24 PM)Megaera Wrote: That 'pob' you speak of is a GC NPC station that is inRP hidden. Nice that you came to visit us there. Couldve called you all out for metagaming which wouldve been factually correct.
Greetings.
I do not recall any rules preventing people from going anywhere, as anyone. inRP, it may be hidden, but it has no repercussion, nor can it be considered metagaming. Just my two cents.
Base camping and then calling us out for being at the base when our group wasn't even prepared is just weird, isn't it?
See:
(07-12-2022, 09:34 PM)Emperor Tekagi Wrote: Kind of epic attempt to make us appearing at the base for less than 3 minutes base camping. We flew over the system to check where you are, we saw and NOTICED that you had a 4th man incoming for a solid 4v4.
We found you at your base. You then decided to log off over "metagaming argument" which is pretty poor tbh. Means I'll flip too when I see you nearby FA or Hogosha bases the next time, right? Just cut it out and stop trying to alter things your way.
We were not base camping, yes we actively searched you all out. Yes, with the clear intention of having that 4v4 as we saw your 4th man coming from Kyushu. You decided to log off rather "random" to some of us then. We proceeded to fly back and log off then too.
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RE: Golden Chrysanthemum Gen'an Cell - Feedback - Denzelthefish - 07-12-2022
(07-12-2022, 09:34 PM)Emperor Tekagi Wrote: We flew over the system to check where you are,
* insert meme 'press X to doubt' *
Let's be fair you came to KKJ the second u jumped to Shikoku