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Jump hole "abuse" is not against the rules - Thexare - 08-31-2008
Zero, kindly shut up. You're just going to cause further hostility.
It's been sanctioned before, and I agree that it should be a sanctionable offense, but it does need to be added to the rules so people can actually know that.
Actually, the rules need a total rewrite. I had hoped it would become a top priority with the expanded administrator team, but apparently not.
Jump hole "abuse" is not against the rules - Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-31-2008
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Jump hole "abuse" is not against the rules - dr lameos - 08-31-2008
' Wrote:saying ping ponging harsm gameplay well i could say the same thing about quickdockint a ship commIN ON CRUSE TO DOCK!!!weound cause damage to the station NO MATTER HOW BIG OR SMALL quickdocking a battleship in shipyards could also risk KILLING WORKERS in roleplay
nuff said
Well actually,
quickdocking doesn't affect other players...
As long as the pilot is skilled enough he will hit the mooring clamps, which are fitted with dampers specifically for this reason, and won't touch the station walls at all.
A ship can stop from full speed almost instantly, this coupled with cushioned mooring clamps is a fully reasonable RP way to dock.
It doesn't affect anyone else, is fine RP - how does it harm gameplay? It saves time and allows for more time actually playing, therefore enhancing it.
'nuff said'
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Theaxare -
i agree, they need a rewrite, but adding in every single exception or situation of rule will harm disco - result in more confusion, many more reports, more debates like this
If somethings sanctionable but not in rules yet - it needs to be a warning first, then put into the rules so future players know.
Jump hole "abuse" is not against the rules - Thexare - 08-31-2008
' Wrote:Theaxare -There aren't just additions needed, things need to be removed as well. Overall, I don't think we'll end up with more total rules if they're updated.
i agree, they need a rewrite, but adding in every single exception or situation of rule will harm disco - result in more confusion, many more reports, more debates like this
Jump hole "abuse" is not against the rules - Akumabito - 08-31-2008
' Wrote:that was the very moment amu's argument was ass raped with no lube.
That is the definition of course language.
Trader vs. Pirate is NOT PvP, this has been said many times so the PvP rules are not violated with multiple jumps back and forth. This trader/pirate thing is another area that the rules need clarified on to match the admins actions.
Jump hole "abuse" is not against the rules - chovynz - 08-31-2008
GET THIS STRAIGHT PEOPLE.
"but adding in every single exception or situation of rule will harm disco"
No one is suggesting we do that. Overgeneralizations dont help this discussion.
What this thread is suggesting, and I agree very strongly with the point,
is that we should add ONE line or two if it needs it,
For every "unspoken" rule that has been sanctioned for, setting a
precedent that new players and regular players need to be aware of.
Specifically:
JH Ping Pong isnt allowed.
Jump hole "abuse" is not against the rules - Dennis Jameson - 08-31-2008
So all that Akuma is whining about this time is the fact that some people exploited game mechanics and were sanctioned for it? I always thought that the whole exploitation = punishment equation went without saying.
... Also, Colonel Zero is unable to express himself without resorting to course language. (Not like that wasn't a known fact at this point.)
Argh this thread is giving me a headache.
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Jump hole "abuse" is not against the rules - chovynz - 08-31-2008
Then get out of it.
Dont post useless things like that.
This is a serious thread,
one in which despite whoever the poster is...
I agree quite strongly with the points raised.
Having sanctionable "unspoken" rules
(i.e. rules that exist only in sanction threads and not in the rules)
is unfair on everyone. As was said earlier... what else is going to be sanctioned?
Because the admins (and it's been at least three that I know of)
sanction people for Jump Hole Ping Ponging, then it should be
put into the rules, so that it is clear that it is a sanctionable offense.
Or,
Admins should stop sanctioning people for it.
It's that simple.
Akumbito: please read what I post above.
Note that I do not attack the Admins, or call them biased.
Jump hole "abuse" is not against the rules - Dennis Jameson - 08-31-2008
' Wrote:Then get out of it.
Gee-wizz, i was thinking about it but now i no longer feel like it. Let's discuss this issue then.
Exploiting game mechanics is something which one should be punished for. For example: You get punished if you attack someone who has just undocked from a station.
Now, i can agree that it should be put in the rules, but NOT as something that states that you can't hop through jumpholes forever in order to escape an attacker... Instead, i would like the rule to state that it should be forbidden to exploit any and *all* game mechanics so that another discussion such as this won't arise when game mechanics once aagain are exploited and people are sanctioned as a result.
Jump hole "abuse" is not against the rules - chovynz - 08-31-2008
Glad you could stay Dennis:D
But what is determined as "Game mechanics?" Because that is still too ambiguous. That "Game Mechanics" would need to be listed as well.