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RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Chrono - 08-31-2016
(08-31-2016, 06:12 PM)Sanja Wrote: @Chrono
@Wesker who was in this interaction will reply for himself if he will want to. I can only say that Outcasts are small in numbers, but have a tech and skill advantage inRP. So handeling outnumbering enemies is making sense.
On the personal note, I'm honestly surprised seeing (@)- co-founder complaining about pvp when it comes to outcast factions.
For the record, I was never in charge of or lead any thing in (@) as a certain other member of the leadership overwrote my every attempt to do so. I never sanctioned, nor did I agree with the way (@) was run and I'm sure everyone here remembers, or at least those that want to, that I personal shut down the faction after kicking the leadership member in question from the faction. I will not go into further discussions about (@) because it will only bring up bad and depressing memories. Thank you.
RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Wesker - 08-31-2016
(08-31-2016, 05:54 PM)Chrono Wrote: Since when is it within understandable and realistic bounds for on of your pilots... ONE... To attack a group of around 8 LN and Order ships including an Battleship? Especially in the friggen MIDDLE of Liberty?
The Brigade General of the Red Hessian Armee has doven into 3 Bismarcks and 5 wraiths in the center of New Berlin, she's an ace fighter pilot inrp. I like to live up to my characters inrp standards ingame. She has also done something similar in stuttgart and Dresden as seen here and here. If the leader of the largest Rebellion in Rheinland can do something like that inrp. I don't see why an individual hyped on cardamine wouldn't be able too.
Funny thing, the Order are known as terrorists to the houses. Inrp how would 2 order agents be sitting in their ships next to an LAC or could demand one for help? You don't have authority over your enemies last I checked.
Quote: I thought the NC were supposed to be of a higher standard of gaming and RP than dropping 2, 3 word lines, and attacking. Bunch of bull if you ask me, and I didn't wish to fight either, I kept running in circles, trying to get out of the dang confrontation while Wesker kept bearing down on me with like 2-3 fighters chasing him.The LPI shot me, I was also told to basically piss off inrp by everyone there. Also Outcasts (nomad worshipers last I checked) and the Order (the people that kill nomads and nomad worshipsers and exist soley to do just that) are at war. Inrp why would I tell you my story of being sniffing the orange product when I can do my job and shoot you?
Quote:Straight up PVP Whore action, RIGHT there. No other explanation could POSSIBLY be given. But do please try to explain this manner of thinking to me, because from what I saw, he straight up made a Bee line for our gathering to fight. Oh, and he brought a friend to. funny thing that. Straight up came looking for blues. Hope you're happy, Wesker, guess I know what your faction is really like now.
If you seriously judge and entire faction by one person who isnt the leader or is even HC. I don't understand how you'll manage with other factions. NC- is not a PvPwhore faction, yes I like pvp. There's that saying, PvP is a part of RP. If you want to have a RP session, tell me inrp or oorply rather than telling me to get lost inrp.
Quote:EDIT: I apologise for some of the comments in this post, I was angry at the time of typing them and have since ate a nice big sandwhich. However, I will leave the original post as it is given that I do not wish to be in any trouble for editing a post after it's been written. I apologise Wesker. Jess~
Np, again if you wan't more RP say so inrp. Even with CR| and 5th| I always GIVE people a chance to ask me questions or what not before I shoot them. I didn't really see any of that when I flew up to you guys today.
RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Shaggy - 08-31-2016
Quote:Np, again if you wan't more RP say so inrp. Even with CR| and 5th| I always GIVE people a chance to ask me questions or what not before I shoot them. I didn't really see any of that when I flew up to you guys today.
Hi wesker, just read through this feedback thread and I noticed you mentioned CR|. Well What has CR| got to do with this incident to start of with?
Secondly I am actually sat here laughing my head off with your last comment. Let me just quote it for you.
You always GIVE CR| and 5th a chance to ask you questions, or what not before I shoot them? There is a word I would love to use but i can't. But that is a big fat lie, I have proof and evidence from recent interactions from NC- mainly your character saying 2 words, 1 was hola the other was an engagement notice in Coronado, and if it wasn't for that CR| pilot to try and make a conversation the engagement notice would be within 10 seconds. Correct me if I am wrong that is a forum of breaking server rules.
Wesker you also made an thread claiming you ROLEPLAY your characters, but we all know you play for 1 reason and that is for pvp now a days. Alot of people liked you and had respect fr you as a player here, but you run Core| and [RHA] and all you think about is pvp. Common dude, you are a follower, you can't stand on your own 2 feet. You even said that with the Solitaire Metropolis on teamspeak. That you know it was wrong but you can't stop it. That just proves there is no leader in you anymore. Whats happened Wesker.
Pvp of 2 lines and engagement and claiming you GIVE people a chance to roleplay wow.
Common man up.
RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Chrono - 08-31-2016
(08-31-2016, 06:30 PM)Wesker Wrote: Np, again if you wan't more RP say so inrp. Even with CR| and 5th| I always GIVE people a chance to ask me questions or what not before I shoot them. I didn't really see any of that when I flew up to you guys today.
So what you are saying is that you do INFACT come looking for a fight... for PVP, though are willing to delay it if someone wishes to speak first? In other words, you will be shooting them no matter what they do. because that's what I've just read from the above as well as from what you've told me in skype. That's a nice, fair attitude you have towards this game, Wesker. No wonder new players get turned off so easily to this game.
RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - GuapMan - 08-31-2016
Jess did you reply/read anything else @Wesker said?
I mean he has some points there, Or did you just skip that because he was right in what he said?
RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Shiki - 08-31-2016
@Shaggy
RP works in a both ways, if you may know. I've never seen a serious attempts to RP on my behalf. Speaking of the other things, I have no freaking idea why do you pull Core| and [RHA] stuff here and how does it related. I've let myself to talk about (@)-, because many members are now members of NC-, as well as chars iRP. And I was looking on (@)- experience when made NC-, as well as on all other previous OC factions. So yeah, if you came here to make personal war with Wesker, you came to the wrong thread. I think he have a personal feedback thread.
RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Shaggy - 08-31-2016
(08-31-2016, 06:51 PM)Sanja Wrote: @Shaggy
RP works in a both ways, if you may know. I've never seen a serious attempts to RP on my behalf. Speaking of the other things, I have no freaking idea why do you pull Core| and [RHA] stuff here and how does it related. I've let myself to talk about (@)-, because many members are now members of NC-, as well as chars iRP. And I was looking on (@)- experience when made NC-, as well as on all other previous OC factions. So yeah, if you came here to make personal war with Wesker, you came to the wrong thread. I think he have a personal feedback thread.
Nope im not here to start a war with Wesker. I am here just saying wesker is 1IC of 2 factions and his mentality of 2 lines and guns blazing is a bad leader. Especially when he says he can't even control his members.
But I have been holding back the fact that Wesker has come to Coronado on a daily basis for 1 reason. To PvP CR| members with minimal RP. That is
Hola
Prepare to die: Name
Guns fired
That is Wesker roleplay and you or Wesker said that Outcast are "Ace" pilots so why did you come to CR Feedback thread complaining we "Ganked" you if you are such good, ace pilots you wouldn't really care if you go to Liberty and fight 5 or 6 v 1.
NC- was a really really good faction when you first started. Alot of good, well written roleplay not just pvp. I even wanted to get alot of CR and NC roleplay done but over recent weeks NC changed. You are more pvp orientated. First the Storks, Then players coming to Coro and just doing 2 lines RP. Complaining you didn't get blue messages but docking messages in duels because inrp reason the pilot does not want to be shot down or injured. To now going 5/6 v 1 in Liberty.
Wow just I am speechless from such expierenced members. Members who own factions, members who have been here a long time. But PvP is priority right?
RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Chrono - 08-31-2016
(08-31-2016, 06:51 PM)Sanja Wrote: @Shaggy
RP works in a both ways, if you may know. I've never seen a serious attempts to RP on my behalf. Speaking of the other things, I have no freaking idea why do you pull Core| and [RHA] stuff here and how does it related. I've let myself to talk about (@)-, because many members are now members of NC-, as well as chars iRP. And I was looking on (@)- experience when made NC-, as well as on all other previous OC factions. So yeah, if you came here to make personal war with Wesker, you came to the wrong thread. I think he have a personal feedback thread.
He was flying the NC tag when he came looking for a fight and attacked, thus this feedback BELONGS in THIS thread. The NC is a set faction with a set tag, it's members actions reflect on the faction no matter who that member is. Thus, this is a case for the NC as a whole, not for the single individual. This is YOUR responsibility as a faction leader, Shiki. This is the responsibility of the entire leadership to deal with... as it would be for any other faction where someone flies their tag and flag.
So no, this discussion belongs RIGHT here.
@GuapMan Yes, I did in fact read it all, thank you. I was simply bringing the major issue at hand to light. As for what all he said, I agree with some of it, and disagree with other bits. Much of what I said was in anger and I apologized for my words. But thank you for your contribution to this discussion.
RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Shiki - 08-31-2016
(08-31-2016, 06:56 PM)Shaggy Wrote:(08-31-2016, 06:51 PM)Sanja Wrote: @Shaggy
RP works in a both ways, if you may know. I've never seen a serious attempts to RP on my behalf. Speaking of the other things, I have no freaking idea why do you pull Core| and [RHA] stuff here and how does it related. I've let myself to talk about (@)-, because many members are now members of NC-, as well as chars iRP. And I was looking on (@)- experience when made NC-, as well as on all other previous OC factions. So yeah, if you came here to make personal war with Wesker, you came to the wrong thread. I think he have a personal feedback thread.
Nope im not here to start a war with Wesker. I am here just saying wesker is 1IC of 2 factions and his mentality of 2 lines and guns blazing is a bad leader. Especially when he says he can't even control his members.
But I have been holding back the fact that Wesker has come to Coronado on a daily basis for 1 reason. To PvP CR| members with minimal RP. That is
Hola
Prepare to die: Name
Guns fired
That is Wesker roleplay and you or Wesker said that Outcast are "Ace" pilots so why did you come to CR Feedback thread complaining we "Ganked" you if you are such good, ace pilots you wouldn't really care if you go to Liberty and fight 5 or 6 v 1.
NC- was a really really good faction when you first started. Alot of good, well written roleplay not just pvp. I even wanted to get alot of CR and NC roleplay done but over recent weeks NC changed. You are more pvp orientated. First the Storks, Then players coming to Coro and just doing 2 lines RP. Complaining you didn't get blue messages but docking messages in duels because inrp reason the pilot does not want to be shot down or injured. To now going 5/6 v 1 in Liberty.
Wow just I am speechless from such expierenced members. Members who own factions, members who have been here a long time. But PvP is priority right?
We have even more RP right now than at the beginning, it's 6 ongoing comms right now, or even more. I actually can't remeber NC- complaning about CR ganking them in CR feedback. I only asked about docking and that was rather out of curiosity than a real complaining, nothing more that came to CR| feedback from NC-. NC- is doing RP, NC- is doing PvP (Outcast ID is meant to play this role, I am not that good at PvP myself, but Outcast faction is suppose to do PvP) and I can't see how this is wrong.
@Chrono
Wesker replied, I think that was extended point of view on the situation. I still can't see how Core| and [RHA] business is touching NC-, we had 2 fights with Core| and 1 comm with [RHA], if Shaggy is going to discuss it, I will galdly reply.
RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Wesker - 08-31-2016
(08-31-2016, 06:44 PM)Shaggy Wrote: Hi wesker, just read through this feedback thread and I noticed you mentioned CR|. Well What has CR| got to do with this incident to start of with?
Secondly I am actually sat here laughing my head off with your last comment. Let me just quote it for you.
I used them as an example.
Quote:You always GIVE CR| and 5th a chance to ask you questions, or what not before I shoot them? There is a word I would love to use but i can't. But that is a big fat lie, I have proof and evidence from recent interactions from NC- mainly your character saying 2 words, 1 was hola the other was an engagement notice in Coronado, and if it wasn't for that CR| pilot to try and make a conversation the engagement notice would be within 10 seconds. Correct me if I am wrong that is a forum of breaking server rules.
Keyword RECENT interactions. I've RPd with Divine's Harelyquinn on my NC and let him live. You can ask him yourself. There was a time when I interacted with CR before you led you know.
It's not breaking the server rules to give them time to react and RP before engagement (unless its piracy) which I have done EVERYTIME. Hence why I haven't been sanctioned?
Quote:Wesker you also made an thread claiming you ROLEPLAY your characters, but we all know you play for 1 reason and that is for pvp now a days.
Ok now you've triggered me.
If I really never gave a shit about RP, why would I even make that thread? Why would I waste my time typing that up and listen to all the idiots and hypocrites in that thread go at it with one another? Why would I even care?
Further more if I never cared about RP and only for pvp, why would I go and RP with the very people that hated me so much? Why would I type up this or this or this or this or this or this or this or this or this this. I'm a selfish pvpwhore right? Why would I give a shit about RP? Clearly im the bad guy here.
Quote: Alot of people liked you and had respect fr you as a player here, but you run Core| and [RHA] and all you think about is pvp. Common dude, you are a follower, you can't stand on your own 2 feet. You even said that with the Solitaire Metropolis on teamspeak. That you know it was wrong but you can't stop it. That just proves there is no leader in you anymore. Whats happened Wesker.
As seen above I've done a good share of RP with [RHA], no I haven't done as much RP with Core I've spent this past month and a half literaly repairing the faction and saving it from going unofficial since someone stole our shareds. Oh yea by the way you were one of the people that took the money off of them right? But I won't embarrass you further. You think I'm a follower? Is that why I've stepped up to the plate to lead 2 of the most hated factions on the server? Is that why I joined several factions that are in danger of losing officialdom and help them out as well? That's in terms of actually leading factions and dictating RP, have you ever flown with me ingame? I always take command of my side and tell them what too do. I've gained favorable positions for that.
I have more responsiblities both in this ridiculous game and irl. I'm sorry I'm not the person you wanted. Everyone's expecting a different person out of me now a days. I can't please everyone, I have to stand on my feet and say "no".
Quote:
Pvp of 2 lines and engagement and claiming you GIVE people a chance to roleplay wow.
Common man up.
I obviously can't change your viewpoint on me here so I won't bother.