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RE: Indie Nomad ID implementation - Ander_K - 12-04-2012
(12-03-2012, 10:54 PM)kikatsu Wrote: I suggest doing a trial run of it and tweaking the ID limitations as needed after seeing how it affects the game.
I double this, we can make a ton of theories, but only a trial run can show what will happen. Though I think indie Nomnoms will bring at most lolwuts/avengers shooting anything/specific traders, like having lolcaps wasn't enough. And sanctionlancing, well it will put more stress on admins, who are working for free, as I recall.
One more thing, am I the only person who finds an answer "it's already bad" to a statement "it'll make things worse" hilarious?
Like I can say exaggerating and putting drama in:
- You shouldn't start a fire at your attic.
- Meh, I've already have a fire in the basement.
Anyway I am only a human, my opinion can be wrong, so trial run I say.
Can it be add to poll answers?
RE: Indie Nomad ID implementation - Alley - 12-04-2012
the poll is about "would you be interested in playing as an indie nom" not "would you like to see this happen"
trial aka beta will happen, and it's during that time we'll find out how ppl behave with this.
RE: Indie Nomad ID implementation - Ander_K - 12-04-2012
(12-04-2012, 06:25 AM)Alley Wrote: the poll is about "would you be interested in playing as an indie nom" not "would you like to see this happen"Indeed. My bad.
(12-04-2012, 06:25 AM)Alley Wrote: trial aka beta will happen...So much confidence.
Where it comes from?
RE: Indie Nomad ID implementation - Gentlefood - 12-04-2012
Why the self defense clause regarding Wild? That seems unnecessary.
RE: Indie Nomad ID implementation - The Mole Miner - 12-04-2012
(12-03-2012, 04:07 AM)AeternusDoleo Wrote: I predict this suggestion will cause a lot of folks to make nomad alts to "terrorise" players or factions they do not like. The Nomads do not have any restrictions on who or what they can attack, so they end up being the universal "*** (pews!) ***" group. That's why they are limited to the Omicrons - because that is where their current powerbase is.
The ID as you propose it, could see quite a number of "nomads" on the tradelanes and in the mining areas, just lolengaging anything they see. That kind of thing has happened before. So I'm not in favor of this at all. Furthermore, the Wilde are the Nomads presence inside the houses and in the borderworlds. If the Nomads go there themselves, it makes the Wilde obsolete.
you can yell at me all you want for not back reading all the pages so I don't know if this has been suggested or not yet.
anyways to prevent to lolpewing might I suggest that they cannot engage anyone (except in self defense) out side of nomad controlled systems because I think that the primary reason that someone should want a nomad ID 'should' be for the RP as I personally loved doing nomad RP with my morph granted that RP was a bit limited due to it's being a morph so anyways maybe the ID could look a bit like this?
Quote:Pilot carrying this ID is a Nomad, who :
Can engage any ship in nomad space.
Cannot engage anyone except in self-defense outside of nomad space.
Cannot engage Nomads.
Cannot engage Wilde except in self-defense.
Cannot enter House space, Cortez, Magellan, Bering, Hudson, Kepler, Galileo, Sigma-13, Omega-3, Omega-7, Tau-31 and Tau-29 except if flying with a K'Hara| Official Faction ship.
Cannot demand credits.
Cannot demand cargo except Human pilots and Nomad items.
Cannot land anywhere except Nomad or Wild bases.
Allowed ships: Nomad Fighters, Nomad Bomber, Nomad Gunboat
*colored stuff is the stuff I edited.
RE: Indie Nomad ID implementation - Hidamari - 12-04-2012
(12-04-2012, 07:41 AM)The Mole Miner Wrote:Quote:Pilot carrying this ID is a Nomad, who :
Can engage any ship in nomad space.
Cannot engage anyone except in self-defense outside of nomad space.
Cannot engage Nomads.
Cannot engage Wilde except in self-defense.
Cannot enter House space, Cortez, Magellan, Bering, Hudson, Kepler, Galileo, Sigma-13, Omega-3, Omega-7, Tau-31 and Tau-29 except if flying with a K'Hara| Official Faction ship.
Cannot demand credits.
Cannot demand cargo except Human pilots and Nomad items.
Cannot land anywhere except Nomad or Wild bases.
Allowed ships: Nomad Fighters, Nomad Bomber, Nomad Gunboat
*colored stuff is the stuff I edited.
I can absolutely guaruntee people will shoot outcasts with nomads if its not on the ID.
RE: Indie Nomad ID implementation - Vrabcek - 12-04-2012
(12-03-2012, 11:35 PM)Alley Wrote:Quote:Pilot carrying this ID is a Nomad, who :
Can engage any ship.
Cannot engage Nomads.
Cannot engage Wilde except in self-defense.
Cannot enter House space, Cortez, Magellan, Bering, Hudson, Sigma-13, Omega-3, Omega-7, Tau-31 and Tau-29 except if flying along with a K'Hara| Official Faction ship.
Cannot demand credits.
Cannot demand cargo except Human pilots and Nomad items.
Cannot land anywhere except Nomad or Wild bases.
Allowed ships: Nomad Fighters, Nomad Bomber, Nomad Gunboat
edit: modified the wilde bit.
I agree with Gentlefood that the Wild difference is totally unnecessary. Just make it:
Cannot engage Nomads and Wild
It never happened that wilds attacked nomads.
(12-03-2012, 11:35 PM)Alley Wrote: Cannot enter House space, Cortez, Magellan, Bering, Hudson, Sigma-13, Omega-3, Omega-7, Tau-31 and Tau-29 except if flying along with a K'Hara| Official Faction ship.
And you could add the Wild here too, because we are all nomads afterall.
Hidamari, the line on the outcast ID that they cannot attack nomads or wilds was removed too. It didn't end in outcast hunting the nomads.
RE: Indie Nomad ID implementation - Hidamari - 12-04-2012
(12-04-2012, 08:47 AM)Vrabcek Wrote: Hidamari, the line on the outcast ID that they cannot attack nomads or wilds was removed too. It didn't end in outcast hunting the nomads.
that doesn't mean it would work both ways round... it would if there were no indie nomads. I know for a fact some people dont like the chummy relationship outcasts have with nomads, I personally dont like nomads anymore, but its not like im going to provoke a nomad swarm to come and attack me just because I dont like them.
also you cant hunt a faction that doesn't exist, 1 day of activity in the past 30 days is completely negligible.
will end up being like the wilde jokers that were at malta 2 days ago, talking to everyone like they were the brigadier general of the outcast forces, so I was like "sorry but gtfo" guy decided to shoot me because its all good now.
will be this many times over.
what better way to break relations between two factions than to take one factions side and start shooting the other faction because nobody says you cant. Outcasts that shoot nomads are also FR5, nomads that shoot OC are what? there is no repercussion for these actions
OC see the relationship with nomads as more of a perk of the job more than anything, so why would they go out of there way to ruin it?
as for the wilde in alpha incident a few days ago, it will become "anyone who doesnt bow down and say 'yes sir no sir three bags full sir' is okay to shoot" but sorry how many people are gonna sit there and let two random guys bombard them with words like they own the place. none, and so "okay lets kill them"
RE: Indie Nomad ID implementation - Sava - 12-04-2012
Such a popular topic eh?
(12-03-2012, 02:36 AM)Alley Wrote: We would to see the indie nomad ID that's already in the game files, just not available on any base, to be implemented with these edits.
Edits change nothing as long as the ID stays unpurchasable.
I'd say - open the ID, and only after some time look if it needs changes or not.
RE: Indie Nomad ID implementation - Ander_K - 12-04-2012
(12-04-2012, 08:47 AM)Vrabcek Wrote: Hidamari, the line on the outcast ID that they cannot attack nomads or wilds was removed too. It didn't end in outcast hunting the nomads.
O'rly?
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=90113
And these two was kind enough to reply on my messages, no irony here - they answered inRP (though I see their actions totally ooRP), because I can remember at least two cases of OC taged and IFF'ed capships full of nomads remains don't even bother to answer.