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RE: Admin Notice: Phantoms 2.0 - Wraga - 02-02-2014
Nahm just arrived and see, it was an easter egg....
Mind to revive Ponies then?
RE: Admin Notice: Phantoms 2.0 - Rommie - 02-02-2014
I find it quite heartwarming how topics like these bring the monsters out of their caves for a few posts.
Now, looking back, (memories of my early days around here are foggy at best) the Phantoms worked back then because, at the time, the community was in its infancy as a whole, slowly growing. New things were being tried on a regular basis with little opposition. And new players would react more or less inRp when they ran into one, because both Rp and PvP ran side to side at the time. And there were fewer tools for stalking individual players back then. And they didn't really have much choice. Compare what I just said/wrote with the latest 'feeling' you get when you think 'Disco' and you'll figure it out on your own. They just no longer fit in the current state of the mod.
I agree that partially reworking it would not be nice towards the people who raised the concept in its infancy, and the ones that still have characters.
A complete overhaul might not work as well, given the obvious opinion provided by the community.
Make a draft, maybe even try it out. Hell, make an event to start it. Point is, convince the community that its a valuable asset that can be used for the good of the mod before wasting time and resources on a complete and sudden change.
That would be what I wrote. What I actually desire is to bring them back in any form for the sole purpose of terrifying the life out of your players. If they can survive being ganked by 5 LN Dreds.
I need a drink.
Now, looking back, (memories of my early days around here are foggy at best) the Phantoms worked back then because, at the time, the community was in its infancy as a whole, slowly growing. New things were being tried on a regular basis with little opposition. And new players would react more or less inRp when they ran into one, because both Rp and PvP ran side to side at the time. And there were fewer tools for stalking individual players back then. And they didn't really have much choice. Compare what I just said/wrote with the latest 'feeling' you get when you think 'Disco' and you'll figure it out on your own. They just no longer fit in the current state of the mod.
I agree that partially reworking it would not be nice towards the people who raised the concept in its infancy, and the ones that still have characters.
A complete overhaul might not work as well, given the obvious opinion provided by the community.
Make a draft, maybe even try it out. Hell, make an event to start it. Point is, convince the community that its a valuable asset that can be used for the good of the mod before wasting time and resources on a complete and sudden change.
That would be what I wrote. What I actually desire is to bring them back in any form for the sole purpose of terrifying the life out of your players. If they can survive being ganked by 5 LN Dreds.
I need a drink.
RE: Admin Notice: Phantoms 2.0 - Lythrilux - 02-02-2014
(02-02-2014, 06:57 PM)Zelot Wrote:(02-02-2014, 06:46 PM)Lythrilux Wrote:(02-02-2014, 06:28 PM)Croft Wrote: My suggestion would be to simply cut omicron 82 entirely then remake the phantom assets in omega 47 into a smuggler/crime syndicate faction base. Reuse the ships to make different fighters, freighters and transports.
Yes please, I'd love to see a dedicated smuggling faction where you're not limited to half of the smuggling routes.
Use a Freelancer ID. Done and done, what's your problem?
No 5kers though. I'm talking about one on the corporate scale.
EDIT: IND? they never really struck me as a group devoted to smuggling, but I might have a look.
RE: Admin Notice: Phantoms 2.0 - Dusty Lens - 02-02-2014
Maybe it's time to restore the Harvesters.
Babysteps. Right?
RE: Admin Notice: Phantoms 2.0 - Lythrilux - 02-02-2014
(02-02-2014, 07:54 PM)Dusty Lens Wrote: Maybe it's time to restore the Harvesters.
Babysteps. Right?
Why just not throw everything together?
Harvesters who act like phantoms who fly Necrosis's controlled by the AI from the LNS-Tundra would be pretty cool.
RE: Admin Notice: Phantoms 2.0 - Zelot - 02-02-2014
Why not DW?
RE: Admin Notice: Phantoms 2.0 - Silver - 02-02-2014
AW, anyone? Maybe we can ask Kane to bring back his old BH battleship.
And some SA.
<3
And some SA.
<3
RE: Admin Notice: Phantoms 2.0 - HuggieSunrise - 02-02-2014
I feel i have a unique perspective here to all of this... and i hope it helps all those.. on the issue.
Hi guys Im huggie two+ years ago I practically begged yuri to give me and the existing noms who wanted to keep the keepers going in another suit of clothes and a different incarnation going. thats right keepers were facing death.. FLAT death.
Did so for a year, and I went to visit my family for the first time in 6 years and turning thirty had me considering to go and take care of some things. (turning 30 getting things taken care of for folks threatening to die on me family related drama etc etc.) and i had to go.
32 now. Figured out a lot of this shit is laughably trivial and for more or less Im back.. and im going to tell you If i was the OLD huggie.. old huggie would be spinning in his chair.
Yuri came back in the meantime, and a heavily harped on feature for wild and noms (infini cloaks) happened that i must have posted a billion threads about.
Also realise that alot of lore or future plans I, Bhunters, order, wild, etc were working on seemed to have evaporated. disappointment there but... not too much of a shock. We tentacled the damn king of gallia... retconned? as far as i know it was. why did we do that? ..i mean its gallia common. the deadest horse in this mod that just won't die of course we're going to screw with it.
All these "plans" and "expectations" I had in the past didn't seem to pan out despite all the hard work.. Cept of course.. those cloaks. result? Mixed bag..
As im sure this is a mixed bag for you guys. Im not gonna judge and say you shouldn't feel pissed off. but what these guys do with what's left behind is not your call.. and yeah its hard. your not alone.. but again you are.
Sorry.
But id like to think even if we dont agree with everything being done is right or will work that the admins..(as they said) are going to create something to use what has gone unused for so long.
I really completely doubt your legacy will ever be completely erased. Not like mine or those who have come before me or those other factions who have come or gone over the years.
This doesent need to be sensationalised as the admins will take from us what they want and damn all the rest. I dont think Dev's and Admins are elected here on how evil they can be.. Just how much shit can one person take.
Try and trust this will go ok. Or.. you can do what i did.. and just realise life always gives us a chance to work on bigger and better things.
RE: Admin Notice: Phantoms 2.0 - Wraga - 02-02-2014
Its the time to ask for Slaver ID again
RE: Admin Notice: Phantoms 2.0 - Zelot - 02-02-2014
(02-02-2014, 08:00 PM)Silver Wrote:AW, anyone? Maybe we can ask Kane to bring back his old BH battleship.
And some SA.
<3
I dont know, we would have to bring back Dab, not sure which is the greater evil, bringing back the Phooms or bringing back Dab.