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RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Shaggy - 08-31-2016

(08-31-2016, 07:06 PM)Sanja Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 06:56 PM)Shaggy Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 06:51 PM)Sanja Wrote: @Shaggy
RP works in a both ways, if you may know. I've never seen a serious attempts to RP on my behalf. Speaking of the other things, I have no freaking idea why do you pull Core| and [RHA] stuff here and how does it related. I've let myself to talk about (@)-, because many members are now members of NC-, as well as chars iRP. And I was looking on (@)- experience when made NC-, as well as on all other previous OC factions. So yeah, if you came here to make personal war with Wesker, you came to the wrong thread. I think he have a personal feedback thread.

Nope im not here to start a war with Wesker. I am here just saying wesker is 1IC of 2 factions and his mentality of 2 lines and guns blazing is a bad leader. Especially when he says he can't even control his members.

But I have been holding back the fact that Wesker has come to Coronado on a daily basis for 1 reason. To PvP CR| members with minimal RP. That is

Hola
Prepare to die: Name
Guns fired

That is Wesker roleplay and you or Wesker said that Outcast are "Ace" pilots so why did you come to CR Feedback thread complaining we "Ganked" you if you are such good, ace pilots you wouldn't really care if you go to Liberty and fight 5 or 6 v 1.

NC- was a really really good faction when you first started. Alot of good, well written roleplay not just pvp. I even wanted to get alot of CR and NC roleplay done but over recent weeks NC changed. You are more pvp orientated. First the Storks, Then players coming to Coro and just doing 2 lines RP. Complaining you didn't get blue messages but docking messages in duels because inrp reason the pilot does not want to be shot down or injured. To now going 5/6 v 1 in Liberty.

Wow just I am speechless from such expierenced members. Members who own factions, members who have been here a long time. But PvP is priority right?

We have even more RP right now than at the beginning, it's 6 ongoing comms right now, or even more. I actually can't remeber NC- complaning about CR ganking them in CR feedback. I only asked about docking and that was rather out of curiosity than a real complaining, nothing more that came to CR| feedback from NC-. NC- is doing RP, NC- is doing PvP (Outcast ID is meant to play this role, I am not that good at PvP myself, but Outcast faction is suppose to do PvP) and I can't see how this is wrong.

@Chrono
Wesker replied, I think that was extended point of view on the situation. I still can't see how Core| and [RHA] business is touching NC-, we had 2 fights with Core| and 1 comm with [RHA], if Shaggy is going to discuss it, I will galdly reply.

Comms is forum roleplay. Ofcourse there will be alot of forum on the forums but I speak off ingame. How can /l1 and /l2 then right mouse button be acceptable from a faction that would love to go ingame and roleplay. I have spent countless hours roleplaying with NC- ingame before you even thought about official request. There has been complaints about CR ganking NC- and Outcasts. You "Asked" about docking out of "Curiosity" because NC did not get there blue message. It is written on the CR Feedback thread. NC wanted the blue message and there is logs all over the place saying that is all NC are interested in ingame because blue messages make money. Everyone knows that Outcasts are a unlawful faction. Unlawful doesn't me 24/7 pvp, Unlawful means you are a hostile to said house/faction/organisation and you will do hostile things. Yes this does include fighting, but it also includes roleplay to try and steal or pirate from that said house/faction/organisation and as of late. I have not seen any of that from NC- all I see is pvp is our life. pvp is roleplay. pvp is what this server is and should be. That is all I have been getting recently from alot of people. Im not saying this just about NC- but in general this is why the server is dieing because the most expierence players, faction leaders thing pvp is the priority on this roleplay server. I am not involving Core| or [RHA] I am saying Wesker is a leader of both of those factions and should know better than 2 lines roleplay is poor. He is one of your members maybe not a HC member but you letting him fly around 2 line roleplay. First line is Hola. Second line is prepare to die. From a faction that is becoming official and you've been getting alot of complaint about him. Im still not hearing anything being done. It's like I am still waiting on Skorak or a NC- HC member to come talk to me on skype.

But I think what Chrono and myself is trying to say. Why not let Wesker speak for his actions?


RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Emperor Tekagi - 08-31-2016

(08-31-2016, 07:13 PM)Shaggy Wrote: It's like I am still waiting on Skorak or a NC- HC member to come talk to me on skype.

Ready to talk to you.

Also. This goes already towards player vs player mini-war here again.
Things getting included by both sides ( @Wesker and @Shaggy ) which have nothing to do with NC-


RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Yukina - 08-31-2016

Okay sweethearts, here is the expected reminder to stay nice and civil.
Also, just if you forgot it, this thread is for the feedback on NC-, so all what should be written here is useful feedback for the faction NC-...
Stick to that and move every other discussion elsewhere, just not here!



RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Chrono - 08-31-2016

(08-31-2016, 07:06 PM)Sanja Wrote: @Chrono
Wesker replied, I think that was extended point of view on the situation. I still can't see how Core| and [RHA] business is touching NC-, we had 2 fights with Core| and 1 comm with [RHA], if Shaggy is going to discuss it, I will galdly reply.

Wow, fine then. I guess I got my answer. From now on, when you see Order|Jessica.Frost Logged on, if any of your players come looking for a blue, then they will get a free one because I'm not going to engage in blatant blue hunting. If they give me a chance to RP before blueing me, then that's fine, if they don't, then I guess they get to feel better about themselves for killing someone who isn't willing to fight them.

I play this anger inducing game for one reason only, Role Play. All that bull about PVP = RP and you can't have one without the other is nothing but crap. I come here to make interesting stories and have fun and relaxing interactions with the people in this community. But if you want to come get a free blue message and feel good about yourself, then please, have a bit of pitiful self gratification on me.


RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Shaggy - 08-31-2016

sent to wesker on skype


RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Shiki - 08-31-2016

(08-31-2016, 07:13 PM)Shaggy Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 07:06 PM)Sanja Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 06:56 PM)Shaggy Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 06:51 PM)Sanja Wrote: @Shaggy
RP works in a both ways, if you may know. I've never seen a serious attempts to RP on my behalf. Speaking of the other things, I have no freaking idea why do you pull Core| and [RHA] stuff here and how does it related. I've let myself to talk about (@)-, because many members are now members of NC-, as well as chars iRP. And I was looking on (@)- experience when made NC-, as well as on all other previous OC factions. So yeah, if you came here to make personal war with Wesker, you came to the wrong thread. I think he have a personal feedback thread.

Nope im not here to start a war with Wesker. I am here just saying wesker is 1IC of 2 factions and his mentality of 2 lines and guns blazing is a bad leader. Especially when he says he can't even control his members.

But I have been holding back the fact that Wesker has come to Coronado on a daily basis for 1 reason. To PvP CR| members with minimal RP. That is

Hola
Prepare to die: Name
Guns fired

That is Wesker roleplay and you or Wesker said that Outcast are "Ace" pilots so why did you come to CR Feedback thread complaining we "Ganked" you if you are such good, ace pilots you wouldn't really care if you go to Liberty and fight 5 or 6 v 1.

NC- was a really really good faction when you first started. Alot of good, well written roleplay not just pvp. I even wanted to get alot of CR and NC roleplay done but over recent weeks NC changed. You are more pvp orientated. First the Storks, Then players coming to Coro and just doing 2 lines RP. Complaining you didn't get blue messages but docking messages in duels because inrp reason the pilot does not want to be shot down or injured. To now going 5/6 v 1 in Liberty.

Wow just I am speechless from such expierenced members. Members who own factions, members who have been here a long time. But PvP is priority right?

We have even more RP right now than at the beginning, it's 6 ongoing comms right now, or even more. I actually can't remeber NC- complaning about CR ganking them in CR feedback. I only asked about docking and that was rather out of curiosity than a real complaining, nothing more that came to CR| feedback from NC-. NC- is doing RP, NC- is doing PvP (Outcast ID is meant to play this role, I am not that good at PvP myself, but Outcast faction is suppose to do PvP) and I can't see how this is wrong.

@Chrono
Wesker replied, I think that was extended point of view on the situation. I still can't see how Core| and [RHA] business is touching NC-, we had 2 fights with Core| and 1 comm with [RHA], if Shaggy is going to discuss it, I will galdly reply.

Comms is forum roleplay. Ofcourse there will be alot of forum on the forums but I speak off ingame. How can /l1 and /l2 then right mouse button be acceptable from a faction that would love to go ingame and roleplay. I have spent countless hours roleplaying with NC- ingame before you even thought about official request. There has been complaints about CR ganking NC- and Outcasts. You "Asked" about docking out of "Curiosity" because NC did not get there blue message. It is written on the CR Feedback thread. NC wanted the blue message and there is logs all over the place saying that is all NC are interested in ingame because blue messages make money. Everyone knows that Outcasts are a unlawful faction. Unlawful doesn't me 24/7 pvp, Unlawful means you are a hostile to said house/faction/organisation and you will do hostile things. Yes this does include fighting, but it also includes roleplay to try and steal or pirate from that said house/faction/organisation and as of late. I have not seen any of that from NC- all I see is pvp is our life. pvp is roleplay. pvp is what this server is and should be. That is all I have been getting recently from alot of people. Im not saying this just about NC- but in general this is why the server is dieing because the most expierence players, faction leaders thing pvp is the priority on this roleplay server. I am not involving Core| or [RHA] I am saying Wesker is a leader of both of those factions and should know better than 2 lines roleplay is poor. He is one of your members maybe not a HC member but you letting him fly around 2 line roleplay. First line is Hola. Second line is prepare to die. From a faction that is becoming official and you've been getting alot of complaint about him. Im still not hearing anything being done. It's like I am still waiting on Skorak or a NC- HC member to come talk to me on skype.

But I think what Chrono and myself is trying to say. Why not let Wesker speak for his actions?

I will tell you one simple thing, personally I am interested CR to dock, because then -I- pay less. I am not trading for my personal bank, all goes to feed this board. I'm not so happy with it. As I told you 2 or maybe 3 times:

I don't believe in a wide RP between the enemies, unless one or both sides are interested to make peace or looking for a compromise. And we are talking about war between Outcasts and CR for a second. I will repeat another time, same is going for CR|, CR| does not RP a lot before the engagement, which is naturally. I think most of NC- players have a great RP, and this is just becoming silly and insulting, since many players have a chars with the years of RP background. I like how you ignoring our forum RP, which we spend hours and hours on and keep repeating that we are pvp-only faction.

@Chrono
If members will read and remember your name, then fine. Personally I am not going to force the type of interactions on them.


RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - KaelanFrey - 08-31-2016

I think I should speak up about this before it becomes further of a ****fest, because I was there, and I believe that it is important to know the context behind of what happened before anything - also because I doubt that Wesker had the slightest idea of what to expect when he arrived and this is evident in this quote (also my Skype isn't working properly):

Quote:Funny thing, the Order are known as terrorists to the houses. Inrp how would 2 order agents be sitting in their ships next to an LAC or could demand one for help? You don't have authority over your enemies last I checked.

The situation was already really awkward before the NC arrived: I (as 5th's Lt. Carl Harrisford, escorted by other Navy ships) was talking with Order| pilots, not 30k away from Planet Manhattan, about a LSF indie Hathor being on the loose, implying that we were involved somehow; which was true, the 5th Fleet had already shot it down more than once, but that's another story. They were mostly concerned at how the LSF got a hold of the vessel, since that brings up some questions, at least inRP.

We were in the middle of our little picnic when Wesker showed up, RPed a bit, dropped an engagement notice, then we started to fight, one by one, NC backup arrived, yadda yadda, no complaints on the fight, aside from the LAC that was closeby taking some potshots (and killing one Xeno who jumped in to kill Navy I guess???????) even after I told him to stand down. There's only so much I can do as a low-ranking dude.

Either way, I hope I made it clear why the Navy was helping the Order: we were trying to discuss ways to fix a common problem, and a common enemy came in to interfere. As I've implied, 30k away from Manhattan wasn't a good idea to do the former, but hey, that's what it was happening.

The entire incident happened within reasonable roleplay - as sudden/effortless as it was. An Outcast pilot came in to shoot his mortal enemies and that's what he did. He just happened to win the fight, and that sucks for us I guess. not that there was any hope with me in a liberator and a couple of indie snubs...........

Order| and 5th| can very well resume this RP later, maybe even in the forums - and hopefully, this time, with the proper authority involved; Carl shouldn't be having to discuss rogue Hathor gunboats with anyone but Navy, that's more of HC's job.



RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Shaggy - 08-31-2016

(08-31-2016, 07:35 PM)Sanja Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 07:13 PM)Shaggy Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 07:06 PM)Sanja Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 06:56 PM)Shaggy Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 06:51 PM)Sanja Wrote: @Shaggy
RP works in a both ways, if you may know. I've never seen a serious attempts to RP on my behalf. Speaking of the other things, I have no freaking idea why do you pull Core| and [RHA] stuff here and how does it related. I've let myself to talk about (@)-, because many members are now members of NC-, as well as chars iRP. And I was looking on (@)- experience when made NC-, as well as on all other previous OC factions. So yeah, if you came here to make personal war with Wesker, you came to the wrong thread. I think he have a personal feedback thread.

Nope im not here to start a war with Wesker. I am here just saying wesker is 1IC of 2 factions and his mentality of 2 lines and guns blazing is a bad leader. Especially when he says he can't even control his members.

But I have been holding back the fact that Wesker has come to Coronado on a daily basis for 1 reason. To PvP CR| members with minimal RP. That is

Hola
Prepare to die: Name
Guns fired

That is Wesker roleplay and you or Wesker said that Outcast are "Ace" pilots so why did you come to CR Feedback thread complaining we "Ganked" you if you are such good, ace pilots you wouldn't really care if you go to Liberty and fight 5 or 6 v 1.

NC- was a really really good faction when you first started. Alot of good, well written roleplay not just pvp. I even wanted to get alot of CR and NC roleplay done but over recent weeks NC changed. You are more pvp orientated. First the Storks, Then players coming to Coro and just doing 2 lines RP. Complaining you didn't get blue messages but docking messages in duels because inrp reason the pilot does not want to be shot down or injured. To now going 5/6 v 1 in Liberty.

Wow just I am speechless from such expierenced members. Members who own factions, members who have been here a long time. But PvP is priority right?

We have even more RP right now than at the beginning, it's 6 ongoing comms right now, or even more. I actually can't remeber NC- complaning about CR ganking them in CR feedback. I only asked about docking and that was rather out of curiosity than a real complaining, nothing more that came to CR| feedback from NC-. NC- is doing RP, NC- is doing PvP (Outcast ID is meant to play this role, I am not that good at PvP myself, but Outcast faction is suppose to do PvP) and I can't see how this is wrong.

@Chrono
Wesker replied, I think that was extended point of view on the situation. I still can't see how Core| and [RHA] business is touching NC-, we had 2 fights with Core| and 1 comm with [RHA], if Shaggy is going to discuss it, I will galdly reply.

Comms is forum roleplay. Ofcourse there will be alot of forum on the forums but I speak off ingame. How can /l1 and /l2 then right mouse button be acceptable from a faction that would love to go ingame and roleplay. I have spent countless hours roleplaying with NC- ingame before you even thought about official request. There has been complaints about CR ganking NC- and Outcasts. You "Asked" about docking out of "Curiosity" because NC did not get there blue message. It is written on the CR Feedback thread. NC wanted the blue message and there is logs all over the place saying that is all NC are interested in ingame because blue messages make money. Everyone knows that Outcasts are a unlawful faction. Unlawful doesn't me 24/7 pvp, Unlawful means you are a hostile to said house/faction/organisation and you will do hostile things. Yes this does include fighting, but it also includes roleplay to try and steal or pirate from that said house/faction/organisation and as of late. I have not seen any of that from NC- all I see is pvp is our life. pvp is roleplay. pvp is what this server is and should be. That is all I have been getting recently from alot of people. Im not saying this just about NC- but in general this is why the server is dieing because the most expierence players, faction leaders thing pvp is the priority on this roleplay server. I am not involving Core| or [RHA] I am saying Wesker is a leader of both of those factions and should know better than 2 lines roleplay is poor. He is one of your members maybe not a HC member but you letting him fly around 2 line roleplay. First line is Hola. Second line is prepare to die. From a faction that is becoming official and you've been getting alot of complaint about him. Im still not hearing anything being done. It's like I am still waiting on Skorak or a NC- HC member to come talk to me on skype.

But I think what Chrono and myself is trying to say. Why not let Wesker speak for his actions?

I will tell you one simple thing, personally I am interested CR to dock, because then -I- pay less. I am not trading for my personal bank, all goes to feed this board. I'm not so happy with it. As I told you 2 or maybe 3 times:

I don't believe in a wide RP between the enemies, unless one or both sides are interested to make peace or looking for a compromise. And we are talking about war between Outcasts and CR for a second. I will repeat another time, same is going for CR|, CR| does not RP a lot before the engagement, which is naturally. I think most of NC- players have a great RP, and this is just becoming silly and insulting, since many players have a chars with the years of RP background. I like how you ignoring our forum RP, which we spend hours and hours on and keep repeating that we are pvp-only faction.

@Chrono
If members will read and remember your name, then fine. Personally I am not going to force the type of interactions on them.

That sounds fair about the bounty thing. Considering I do the same, all the money I make I put into the faction I am 1IC to make it better.

You don't believe roleplay between enemies? That makes perfect sense because being enemies is roleplay in it self. What if someone is trying to make a deal with you ingame and you or one of your members just say hello, prepare to die how can the other faction make a attempt to make peace. It is impossible. I think you will find CR| has made alot more RP before engaging than NC have. There is a video of that made by one of your members? im not saying NC- player base don't have great RP. I know alot of them do have great RP but don't really like to rp anymore because it is easier to just log in get a blue message and get money for it. Whats more fun sat typing a few more lines or killing someone within 30 seconds?

Im not ignoring the NC roleplay on the forums. I seen it and im just wondering where is the NC- rolepaly ingame or is that just pvp?


RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Shiki - 08-31-2016

(08-31-2016, 08:07 PM)Shaggy Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 07:35 PM)Sanja Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 07:13 PM)Shaggy Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 07:06 PM)Sanja Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 06:56 PM)Shaggy Wrote: Nope im not here to start a war with Wesker. I am here just saying wesker is 1IC of 2 factions and his mentality of 2 lines and guns blazing is a bad leader. Especially when he says he can't even control his members.

But I have been holding back the fact that Wesker has come to Coronado on a daily basis for 1 reason. To PvP CR| members with minimal RP. That is

Hola
Prepare to die: Name
Guns fired

That is Wesker roleplay and you or Wesker said that Outcast are "Ace" pilots so why did you come to CR Feedback thread complaining we "Ganked" you if you are such good, ace pilots you wouldn't really care if you go to Liberty and fight 5 or 6 v 1.

NC- was a really really good faction when you first started. Alot of good, well written roleplay not just pvp. I even wanted to get alot of CR and NC roleplay done but over recent weeks NC changed. You are more pvp orientated. First the Storks, Then players coming to Coro and just doing 2 lines RP. Complaining you didn't get blue messages but docking messages in duels because inrp reason the pilot does not want to be shot down or injured. To now going 5/6 v 1 in Liberty.

Wow just I am speechless from such expierenced members. Members who own factions, members who have been here a long time. But PvP is priority right?

We have even more RP right now than at the beginning, it's 6 ongoing comms right now, or even more. I actually can't remeber NC- complaning about CR ganking them in CR feedback. I only asked about docking and that was rather out of curiosity than a real complaining, nothing more that came to CR| feedback from NC-. NC- is doing RP, NC- is doing PvP (Outcast ID is meant to play this role, I am not that good at PvP myself, but Outcast faction is suppose to do PvP) and I can't see how this is wrong.

@Chrono
Wesker replied, I think that was extended point of view on the situation. I still can't see how Core| and [RHA] business is touching NC-, we had 2 fights with Core| and 1 comm with [RHA], if Shaggy is going to discuss it, I will galdly reply.

Comms is forum roleplay. Ofcourse there will be alot of forum on the forums but I speak off ingame. How can /l1 and /l2 then right mouse button be acceptable from a faction that would love to go ingame and roleplay. I have spent countless hours roleplaying with NC- ingame before you even thought about official request. There has been complaints about CR ganking NC- and Outcasts. You "Asked" about docking out of "Curiosity" because NC did not get there blue message. It is written on the CR Feedback thread. NC wanted the blue message and there is logs all over the place saying that is all NC are interested in ingame because blue messages make money. Everyone knows that Outcasts are a unlawful faction. Unlawful doesn't me 24/7 pvp, Unlawful means you are a hostile to said house/faction/organisation and you will do hostile things. Yes this does include fighting, but it also includes roleplay to try and steal or pirate from that said house/faction/organisation and as of late. I have not seen any of that from NC- all I see is pvp is our life. pvp is roleplay. pvp is what this server is and should be. That is all I have been getting recently from alot of people. Im not saying this just about NC- but in general this is why the server is dieing because the most expierence players, faction leaders thing pvp is the priority on this roleplay server. I am not involving Core| or [RHA] I am saying Wesker is a leader of both of those factions and should know better than 2 lines roleplay is poor. He is one of your members maybe not a HC member but you letting him fly around 2 line roleplay. First line is Hola. Second line is prepare to die. From a faction that is becoming official and you've been getting alot of complaint about him. Im still not hearing anything being done. It's like I am still waiting on Skorak or a NC- HC member to come talk to me on skype.

But I think what Chrono and myself is trying to say. Why not let Wesker speak for his actions?

I will tell you one simple thing, personally I am interested CR to dock, because then -I- pay less. I am not trading for my personal bank, all goes to feed this board. I'm not so happy with it. As I told you 2 or maybe 3 times:

I don't believe in a wide RP between the enemies, unless one or both sides are interested to make peace or looking for a compromise. And we are talking about war between Outcasts and CR for a second. I will repeat another time, same is going for CR|, CR| does not RP a lot before the engagement, which is naturally. I think most of NC- players have a great RP, and this is just becoming silly and insulting, since many players have a chars with the years of RP background. I like how you ignoring our forum RP, which we spend hours and hours on and keep repeating that we are pvp-only faction.

@Chrono
If members will read and remember your name, then fine. Personally I am not going to force the type of interactions on them.

That sounds fair about the bounty thing. Considering I do the same, all the money I make I put into the faction I am 1IC to make it better.

You don't believe roleplay between enemies? That makes perfect sense because being enemies is roleplay in it self. What if someone is trying to make a deal with you ingame and you or one of your members just say hello, prepare to die how can the other faction make a attempt to make peace. It is impossible. I think you will find CR| has made alot more RP before engaging than NC have. There is a video of that made by one of your members? im not saying NC- player base don't have great RP. I know alot of them do have great RP but don't really like to rp anymore because it is easier to just log in get a blue message and get money for it. Whats more fun sat typing a few more lines or killing someone within 30 seconds?

Im not ignoring the NC roleplay on the forums. I seen it and im just wondering where is the NC- rolepaly ingame or is that just pvp?

Shaggy, do you know how the war actually works? Appears to be not, being an enemies is RP situation, but I never see a lot of RP if I'm logging my Corsair and meeting Bretonian lawfuls, or logging my GRN and meet the Navy or any other similar situation. This is not just NC- and CR|, or maybe I have a terrible luck. You saying that great RP of NC- members ends when they log NC- or something? Yes, we making a lot of in-game roleplay, if you asking. I did some RP with CR on my NC-, it were mostly insults and it was honestly boring.


RE: The National Council - Information and Feedback - Shaggy - 08-31-2016

(08-31-2016, 08:24 PM)Sanja Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 08:07 PM)Shaggy Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 07:35 PM)Sanja Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 07:13 PM)Shaggy Wrote:
(08-31-2016, 07:06 PM)Sanja Wrote: We have even more RP right now than at the beginning, it's 6 ongoing comms right now, or even more. I actually can't remeber NC- complaning about CR ganking them in CR feedback. I only asked about docking and that was rather out of curiosity than a real complaining, nothing more that came to CR| feedback from NC-. NC- is doing RP, NC- is doing PvP (Outcast ID is meant to play this role, I am not that good at PvP myself, but Outcast faction is suppose to do PvP) and I can't see how this is wrong.

@Chrono
Wesker replied, I think that was extended point of view on the situation. I still can't see how Core| and [RHA] business is touching NC-, we had 2 fights with Core| and 1 comm with [RHA], if Shaggy is going to discuss it, I will galdly reply.

Comms is forum roleplay. Ofcourse there will be alot of forum on the forums but I speak off ingame. How can /l1 and /l2 then right mouse button be acceptable from a faction that would love to go ingame and roleplay. I have spent countless hours roleplaying with NC- ingame before you even thought about official request. There has been complaints about CR ganking NC- and Outcasts. You "Asked" about docking out of "Curiosity" because NC did not get there blue message. It is written on the CR Feedback thread. NC wanted the blue message and there is logs all over the place saying that is all NC are interested in ingame because blue messages make money. Everyone knows that Outcasts are a unlawful faction. Unlawful doesn't me 24/7 pvp, Unlawful means you are a hostile to said house/faction/organisation and you will do hostile things. Yes this does include fighting, but it also includes roleplay to try and steal or pirate from that said house/faction/organisation and as of late. I have not seen any of that from NC- all I see is pvp is our life. pvp is roleplay. pvp is what this server is and should be. That is all I have been getting recently from alot of people. Im not saying this just about NC- but in general this is why the server is dieing because the most expierence players, faction leaders thing pvp is the priority on this roleplay server. I am not involving Core| or [RHA] I am saying Wesker is a leader of both of those factions and should know better than 2 lines roleplay is poor. He is one of your members maybe not a HC member but you letting him fly around 2 line roleplay. First line is Hola. Second line is prepare to die. From a faction that is becoming official and you've been getting alot of complaint about him. Im still not hearing anything being done. It's like I am still waiting on Skorak or a NC- HC member to come talk to me on skype.

But I think what Chrono and myself is trying to say. Why not let Wesker speak for his actions?

I will tell you one simple thing, personally I am interested CR to dock, because then -I- pay less. I am not trading for my personal bank, all goes to feed this board. I'm not so happy with it. As I told you 2 or maybe 3 times:

I don't believe in a wide RP between the enemies, unless one or both sides are interested to make peace or looking for a compromise. And we are talking about war between Outcasts and CR for a second. I will repeat another time, same is going for CR|, CR| does not RP a lot before the engagement, which is naturally. I think most of NC- players have a great RP, and this is just becoming silly and insulting, since many players have a chars with the years of RP background. I like how you ignoring our forum RP, which we spend hours and hours on and keep repeating that we are pvp-only faction.

@Chrono
If members will read and remember your name, then fine. Personally I am not going to force the type of interactions on them.

That sounds fair about the bounty thing. Considering I do the same, all the money I make I put into the faction I am 1IC to make it better.

You don't believe roleplay between enemies? That makes perfect sense because being enemies is roleplay in it self. What if someone is trying to make a deal with you ingame and you or one of your members just say hello, prepare to die how can the other faction make a attempt to make peace. It is impossible. I think you will find CR| has made alot more RP before engaging than NC have. There is a video of that made by one of your members? im not saying NC- player base don't have great RP. I know alot of them do have great RP but don't really like to rp anymore because it is easier to just log in get a blue message and get money for it. Whats more fun sat typing a few more lines or killing someone within 30 seconds?

Im not ignoring the NC roleplay on the forums. I seen it and im just wondering where is the NC- rolepaly ingame or is that just pvp?

Shaggy, do you know how the war actually works? Appears to be not, being an enemies is RP situation, but I never see a lot of RP if I'm logging my Corsair and meeting Bretonian lawfuls, or logging my GRN and meet the Navy or any other similar situation. This is not just NC- and CR|, or maybe I have a terrible luck. You saying that great RP of NC- members ends when they log NC- or something? Yes, we making a lot of in-game roleplay, if you asking. I did some RP with CR on my NC-, it were mostly insults and it was honestly boring.

I don't know how war actaully works. Now that is funny considering I in the process of going to fight for my country? Hmm okay interesting. Alot of factions i've been apart of have had an enemy or been at war with if not all the factions i've joined. So yeah I do know how it works. But just going ingame to "Roleplay with guns" is a great way for a faction who is trying to get official. Let's be honest now.

Yeah when BAF and CR go to leeds at waits at planet leeds. They wait for a fight do RP with one enough, even if it is insulting each other it is still roleplay is it not. Or are you basiclly saying go to Alpha with CR ships and shoot everything that undocks because we are at war. Or would you just go and wait for more than 1 ship to undock and have a good, fun, enjoyable fight and while the enemy side is waiting you RP?? Hmm okay thanks for the information. From what you just said NC do alot of forum RP but 1 and 2 line RP is fine ingame. That just shows from being a good RP orientated faction on forums and ingame has gone to RP on forums pvp ingame only. Every time I hear a NC interaction with CR it is bad roleplay and guns within a few minutes. How is that "Roleplay"