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Dublin Zones of Control/Sovereignity Discussion - Hastings - 02-13-2011
' Wrote:IMG| still has to abide Bretonia's orders. They were told to have 1 capital ship that would not venture more then 30k from Hood.
But I'd imagine IMG| should talk with Mollys too. To get the permission from the TRUE OWNERS OF DUBLIN
kkthnxbye.
*gets anti-flame umbrella and coat.*
You piss the IMG off, you lose one of your chief suppliers - so, I don't think the IMG owes you anything in that regard.
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Dublin Zones of Control/Sovereignity Discussion - AeternusDoleo - 02-13-2011
We'll ask them, if only as a courtesy. They field a few Scylla's themselves, and IMG's enemies are a subset of their own, I doubt we'll receive a "no" from the Mollies:)
Dublin Zones of Control/Sovereignity Discussion - blubba - 02-13-2011
I'm not really a part of the action in Dublin much but I have a lot of time for all the factions in there having run across you people regularly in one form or another.
What I will say is that a 'little' friction keeps it interesting, bedfellows is boring for all, inside and out and too much friction is a nightmare.
Give the Mollys something to crow about, keep the military on it's toes and the IMG guarded and at arms length...
At least some people are trying to address it as an issue to make it fun for everyone and yet keep it a little chaotic.
Orgainised chaos infact.
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Dublin Zones of Control/Sovereignity Discussion - sadtranslation - 02-14-2011
Uh, believe me, it's not about KOS, it's about 2milordai. Nobody loves people who don't come to hug the miners, everybody loves good and insipid pirates that exist somewhere and encourage mining without escorts, without knowledge of english or roleplay background. I saw what you did there 'in Dublin', and you're a really bad man. (Right, it's a poorly masked kudos to Molly Republic.)
The most valid reason to KOS Mollys always existed - they are Unlawfuls and BMM is one of their main enemies.
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Dublin Zones of Control/Sovereignity Discussion - Mark_Brown - 02-14-2011
My Response as Leader of the MMC and The Commander of the Garda
2 Of the 3 Biggest Molly Factions in Dublin
Lets Begin; - The Garda
I don't feel that if it was to be agreed it would change anything, in retrospective the Mollys and the BAF never cease fired anyway nor do we even now. What the Mollys do infact is we assist the BAF in Corsair Invasion, this is the only time when the Mollys actually interact with the BAF in a neutral sort of fashion.
The Garda as you all know is the Hardcore at the moment of all Mollys, we shoot what we see then ask later, if your mining without a licence, its 2milordie (In RP of Course);)...The BAF as it stands now does assist the BMM but I'm still strugging my shoulders as to why this is actually happening. The BAF is infact a Military Organization branched from the Government so why the hell do they want to be BMM"s Body Guards when they should and is very able to easily find a Mercenary or Freelancer thats payable for Protection.
Military: A military is an organization authorized by its country to use force, usually including use of weapons, in defending its country (or by attacking other countries) by combating actual or perceived threats.
Garda doesn't invade New London in a full out Rage, you won't see it less this document of Dieter gets signed
DROPS A HINT!!! - If Bretonia Wants War (This is what there asking against Mollys Right?) Garda will give them one to remember... - To My Point - The BPA is the ones that should be stopping the criminals but as you read this, you'll understand that there INACTIVITY has become noticed in Bretonia. They are the people who should be shooting the criminals and the taxors in which case Garda and MS not the BAF, the Military should be defending the border and actually attacking KNF rather than slaving around in Dublin for BMM.. I do NOT see the LOGIC & because of this formality of the BPA's task thats not in the hands of the BAF regarding the Mollys Neutrality, we are Already The Enemy On Your Doorsteps. Its within the Admins Right to sort out the BPA if they are not active and give it to a leader thats willing to make it so.. That happened this topic would not exist.
From my BAF Prospective:
I'm a soldier on the Front Line and i'm assisting Miners. Dare I say more No.
From the MMC Prospective:
This could turn fun, The MMC use the IMG Hood for sales, as Jack Henderson has already explained in detail how this has come about all within RP that the IMG and The MMC share the same hatred against the BMM.
My question is this; What will happen if the BAF see MMC Selling ORE at the Hood? Will BAF Attack The Hood or walk away?...
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Any comments and suggestions within this are by prospective that the fact that i FLY GARDA, MMC and BAF in Dublin at least 4/5 Days a week.
& This will NOT change a thing. Mollys see Dublin as our own, Bretonia see's otherwise..
IF this is signed from the Council from Either Mike or Linkus I and Coin will follow there lead, if it does get signed and goes ahead, expect alot of Bargests to be flying around the wrong side of the field cause i'm coming to collect our Permits! *Laughs*
Signed,
=MMC=Ciaran.Quinn
[Garda]Ciaran.Quinn
BAF|LtCdr.Jason.Charles
(Formally Known as BELLCK)
P.s to say the Council wants a FREE DUBLIN I'd Q_Q when it comes to then accepting it and ripping it in half.
Sorry Mike and Linkus my answer stands as NO. That Answer stands formally with the =MMC= Only
Sorry to put things bluntly but as Dieter first said, I Hate Dublin, this is what goes on.. I'm a person to put what ever you've got and stick it on the table in front of you, this is how i see it, there is no otherway I'd like to get it done so for the way i am, i'm sorry if i offended anyone within this topic in the OPINION ABOVE and if you have any comments my Inbox is open for access - Kind Regards - Bellck
Dublin Zones of Control/Sovereignity Discussion - Jack_Henderson - 02-14-2011
Ti put something against the opening remark:
I love Dublin!
It's my playground, my sandbox. Yeah! =)
Quote:My question is this; What will happen if the BAF see MMC Selling ORE at the Hood? Will BAF Attack The Hood or walk away?...
Just my opinion on how this scenario would go down:
1. BAF should not be VERY present in the IMG zone. We will make sure we keep our sector secure. It's part of having a zone... so we will step up to the challenge. Thus these incidents may not occur too often.
2. They will occur! (and I love that to happen! Problem roleplay... yeah!). So BAF might not be pleased but they will have to admit that Molly and IMG has always worked together somehow (historically) and that can't be a secret (they have the IAB ingame). So it should not come as a surprise.
3. What will they do? Nothing... it's the IMG Zone of influence and BAF or Bretonia get a good share of the IMG's ressources, so they profit. They also profit from Molly ore sold via IMG because (ingame-wise) IMG would for sure pay tax. So Molly gold gets Bretonia taxed indirectly. So I guess there would be some bad words and nothing more. Some overzealus pilots might try to do something against it, thus creating interesting scenarios for diplomatic play.
To sum it up: I don't see a problem that will disrupt or keep interesting interactions from happening.
I don#t see a BAF batleship sitting near Hood, waiting for the Molly Barge. And if... we'd find an ingame solution, adapt, and... ROLEPLAY! Yeah! =)
OKay, I admit: not enough sleep, too much coffee... but I'm fine!
Dublin Zones of Control/Sovereignity Discussion - Hastings - 02-14-2011
' Wrote:The BAF as it stands now does assist the BMM but I'm still strugging my shoulders as to why this is actually happening. The BAF is infact a Military Organization branched from the Government so why the hell do they want to be BMM"s Body Guards when they should and is very able to easily find a Mercenary or Freelancer thats payable for Protection.
In-Rply: Primarily because BMM is a crown chartered organization akin to the British East India Company, and thus recieves a number of perks that are not usually granted to a corporation.
OORPLY: Most BMM indies are lolwuts who powermine. Many of us don't particularly like them or want to protect them, but it's our RP duty nonetheless.