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Weapon balance proposal - mjolnir - 03-22-2008
' Wrote:Nah, we both now Odin isn't better then Wrath:)
It's much bigger.
Added Natterturn proposal and edited hornviper to 3.5.
But it turns the same and is non-vanilla. They are evenly matched.
The Natterturn seems too superior to Hornviper now... with 50m/s speed extra.. I would move it closer.
Weapon balance proposal - chopper - 03-22-2008
Odin - 1.2
Wrath - 1.25
That's not a small difference.
And not to mention that Wrath is more agile as well, smaller as well.
Though Odin has 6 guns, so I guess it's balanced. But with even guns.
Also, Natterturn is Laser, Hornviper is Tachyon.
And we both know that 80% of the server mounts graviton shields.
Nah, it's just my opinion. Let's wait for the others to share their view.
About Natterturn Zwei being superior in my proposal.. Yes, perhaps. I will edit it to 338/169, i guess that's fine.
Though look at the situation now.. Natterturn pwns Hornviper:P
Weapon balance proposal - mjolnir - 03-22-2008
Hmm. I forgot it's laser yes... but still.. a bit closer to Hornviper maybe?
EDIT: Add it to the turrets also pls.
Weapon balance proposal - chopper - 03-22-2008
Added Natterturn turret.
I don't know if Thor has a forward firing turret?
If not, they can only use it on Sabre's.
Weapon balance proposal - AdamantineFist - 03-31-2008
' Wrote:And we both know that 80% of the server mounts graviton shields.
I don't! I use molecular! :DWhy exactly is it that everyone uses graviton? I've never really understood that.
Weapon balance proposal - chopper - 04-01-2008
Why? Because 95% of the server uses shield busters.
And Graviton provides additional protection against pulse guns.
So it's the most logical choice.
Anyway, just looked back a bit..
Quote:Ehm.. "lousier ships"... you mean Sabre and Odin.. both are same or better than Wrath... so that would be a no.
This made me laugh now.. I know you already realized how bad Odin is, but still.:lol:
Weapon balance proposal - mjolnir - 04-01-2008
' Wrote:Anyway, just looked back a bit..
This made me laugh now.. I know you already realized how bad Odin is, but still.:lol:
Nah... I never flew the Odin yet.... but I can hit it quite easily... that said I can hit just about everything :P
and Sabre is better.... anyway this is not the place.
Weapon balance proposal - mjolnir - 04-19-2008
just bumping this.... in light of Elgato's vengeance upgrade proposal...
Weapon balance proposal - AdamantineFist - 04-23-2008
One thing I'd like to note is that, under the current proposal, the plasma weapons of both Liberty and Rheinland are a bit underpowered. They both have only 600 speed, and a refire rate of 2.00, yet do less damage than their higher refire counterparts. They should be brought up to have a damage at least as high as the Kraken's, if not higher, as they are lower refire rate weapons with a slower speed.
Weapon balance proposal - chopper - 04-23-2008
I agree, but rocks were thrown at me for even proposing 600 speed - as it would be 'overpowered'.
When I asked how, I got no answer.
900/450 damage with 600 speed and 2.0 refire is still very weak, and that is a fact.
I can't change people's minds though. You can find a discussion about that on some recent pages.
I agree that they should be brought to almost match the Code weapons.. Because they would still only be usable for Military.
And there would be no obvious reasons for people to go OORP and use other faction guns, or even codename guns.
Plasmas are supposed to have greatest damage per second.. And as they are now, they have lower dps then most guns and + have the worst speed.
That means - useless.
If it was only about me, I'd put 1200/600 damage with 600 speed and some 280 energy usage.
But, I guess we'r the minority here... unless more people supports this point of view, I'm keeping it as it is.
Of course, this is just a basic proposal that needs more work.. but I'm not really suitable person to 'balance' it completely.
So, what's important is - we have a consensus that we need gun improvements for certain factions.
Igiss has the last word on the subject, though.