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Rorry's Renegades |RR - Alley - 03-20-2012

' Wrote:I understand what you mean. However, as far as I know, new IDs are coming with each new mod update. So what are you planning on doing until you get the new RR ID considering that it will take lots of months if not years for the next update?

Not anymore. Dummy player faction IDs were added in the discovery files so they can be modified through fl hook. All you need is a server restart and tadaa.


Rorry's Renegades |RR - SpaceTime - 03-20-2012

' Wrote:Not anymore. Dummy player faction IDs were added in the discovery files so they can be modified through fl hook. All you need is a server restart and tadaa.
I guess it is settled then, thanks.


Rorry's Renegades |RR - mwerte - 03-20-2012

Rheinland already has 4 unlawful factions, 2 of which are dying, 1 of which is dead. That problem should be remedied before adding another generic unlawful faction to an already full house.

Aside from that, my few dealings with the RR have been mixed. I must say though, that responding to a PM complaint asking you to talk to your member (rather then file a sanction report) with a "I expected more from you then rulelawyering" was disappointing to say the least.


Rorry's Renegades |RR - Veygaar - 03-20-2012

You complained to me that one of my members shot at you while you tried to silently cruise away. I have no problem with a one of my members shooting fleeing transports that are trying to make a quick get away while the pirate is typing his demand.

And I stand by my statement, I expected better from someone like you. It's self-insulting to try to manipulate the RP system by cruising when a pirate is typing his demand then coming to me complaining that he shot without making a demand.


EDIT- As for "Rheinland having plenty of pirates etc etc." That's their problem to fix and I wish them the best. Although we do bring something a bit different to the table. Think of us like the Liberty Rogues of Rheinland. We're not trying to overthrow the government, just suck credits from it to further our agendas through out Sirius.


Rorry's Renegades |RR - Cond0r - 03-21-2012

' Wrote:Rheinland already has 4 unlawful factions, 2 of which are dying, 1 of which is dead. That problem should be remedied before adding another generic unlawful faction to an already full house.
Factions are "dying", as you call it, all the time, everywhere. Why should that prevent a person or a group of people from doing their own thing and making their own faction/group? Hell, its not their fault that those factions are "dying". If they want to do something differently than those factions and they already have some ideas with which they want to have fun, why not.


Rorry's Renegades |RR - mwerte - 03-21-2012

' Wrote:Factions are "dying", as you call it, all the time, everywhere. Why should that prevent a person or a group of people from doing their own thing and making their own faction/group?
I don't think that it's the RR's fault those factions are dying, I'd just prefer that official status is given to canon factions over player-made. Personal preference, and a bit weird, I know.

' Wrote:You complained to me that one of my members shot at you while you tried to silently cruise away. I have no problem with a one of my members shooting fleeing transports that are trying to make a quick get away while the pirate is typing his demand.

And I stand by my statement, I expected better from someone like you. It's self-insulting to try to manipulate the RP system by cruising when a pirate is typing his demand then coming to me complaining that he shot without making a demand.
I didn't try to "silently" escape, I was talking, and when I thought I saw an opening I tried to take it. To claim that a trader trying to escape is manipulating the RP system is perverse. Your member had plenty of time to make a demand before getting me down to a half-box of health. If I'd have intentionally stayed and let him blow me up so I could file a sanction report, then I'd have been very guilty of rulelawering. But I didn't, I came to you in private, asking you to address a potential breach of the rules, trying to avoid getting your faction in trouble. And you respond with telling me that your members may breach the rules if they don't suit you.


Rorry's Renegades |RR - Not Espi - 03-21-2012

question was probably raised at one point, but - official factions can only use one id. which one would it be? pirate, or merc?


Rorry's Renegades |RR - Zelot - 03-21-2012

On the topic of IDs, I am of the opinion that player faction IDs should not be given out immedeatly upon officaldom. I think you should be planning on not having your own ID for a while, while still meeting the offical faction ID rules.


Rorry's Renegades |RR - dodike - 03-21-2012

' Wrote:Aside from that, my few dealings with the RR have been mixed. I must say though, that responding to a PM complaint asking you to talk to your member (rather then file a sanction report) with a "I expected more from you then rulelawyering" was disappointing to say the least.

' Wrote:I didn't try to "silently" escape, I was talking, and when I thought I saw an opening I tried to take it. To claim that a trader trying to escape is manipulating the RP system is perverse. Your member had plenty of time to make a demand before getting me down to a half-box of health. If I'd have intentionally stayed and let him blow me up so I could file a sanction report, then I'd have been very guilty of rulelawering. But I didn't, I came to you in private, asking you to address a potential breach of the rules, trying to avoid getting your faction in trouble. And you respond with telling me that your members may breach the rules if they don't suit you.
I don't quite understand your case. Shooting a transport without making a demand first is within the rules.
What's the potential breach of rules? It seems you were complaining about something that didn't happen.


Rorry's Renegades |RR - JayDee Kasane - 03-21-2012

I dont even know why one group will be pirates and mercs at the same time. also - why? we already have MM and Reapers, alongside with BHG. Why do we need another merc faction? better you joined BHG and brought more activity to standart factions, then making new if you mercs. or join to already existing pirate factions if you pirates