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Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - Gemini893 - 07-14-2009

' Wrote:the term "guard" is just a term chosen aeons ago. - guard does NOT mean guard in terms of guarding something. - you can think of it as "elite" - of if you like as "dedicated". - while it might make sense for some factions - for others it doesn t make sense. - for some it has already been changed due to RP demands ( BHG guard = core )

do not stick to the term - this term can be changed very easily. - maybe next update we can call it "blue faced" - then every zoner guard becomes a "zoner blue faced" - what would you do about that. - its really just a term to describe the "next level of trust" in the zoner community. - and a "guard" system isn t necessarily a "guard system" in terms of guarding something either. some factions bend their RP about guarding something and being guards - others don t.... really its only a term.
I'd never considered that Guard factions could be looked at that way, thank you for opening my eyes.

' Wrote:the zoner whale was made, cause zoners are traders covering a vast amount of edge space - a space almost as demanding and large as the whole core house space put together. - zoners are traders... they control and pull their strings with political influence which they mainly gain through economical dependencies.
I understand but, at the same time, the Zoner Whale has no guns. Why not let the normal Zoners risk using it? Not that I would, personally. I much prefer having guns.

' Wrote:modern warfare can be faught two ways. - you can have your weapons speak - ruining your own country and the enemy financially. OR you can make them dependent on you - so that you dictate every move they do - and the best thing is .... they re not even really aware that they lost their independence to you.

zoners are fighting this kind of war in a space that prefers the first option more - and thats why zoners are so strong - not in military terms, but in interdependencies.

and this is the reason zoners still have a 5k transport. to express their dedication to that kind of RP. - they interlink factions, they forge ties... and you should be VERY grateful that we don t have a playerbased and dynamic economy - or zoners could REALLY ruin other factions existence, not by taking them over and bombarding their planets - but by ruining their trademarket - but to do so, they need a vast tradefleet.

hardly any planet in sirius is really able to survive on its very own without any imports. - i daresay goverments fear to be utterly isolated from trade by an embargo as much as a large mlitary invasion.
as a result, zoners are not immune to piracy, harrassment or threats. - but players must be aware ( and grateful ) that the most powerful instrument of the zoners to act and react to threats can NOT be executed in our game. - stopping all trade has no effect on a faction. - but if one is a serious RPer, one should have it in mind what consequences it can have.
I've made very similar points in other treads concerning other RP issues. Thank you for reinforcing it and putting it better terms than I ever did. It could even go toward how they would influence Junkers into allowing Zoners access to Gallia.


Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - Jinx - 07-14-2009

just a sidenote - about why the whale has no guns.

mostly, cause i didn t want it to be used for mining / wreck looting. - secondarily to encourage pilots to haggle / talk their way out of a sticky situation ( well, thats a pure fail there, i gotto admit, cause it doens t work that way ) - and thirdly, out of balance reasons ( its a fairly small and agile 5k transport - and although it doesn t have a vast armour protection it is very hard to stop once it has gained speed and some distance )

oh, and forthly - out of egoism, i planned to fly one myself ( and i do ) - saying that i don t model for myself a bit, too would be a lie.



Zoner/Zoner Guard IDs - Malaclypse 666 - 07-14-2009

Ladies and Gents,

Thank you all for your helpful suggestions, lively discussion, and some votes to boot.

The voting was actually to close on Saturday, but we were all enjoying the discourse so much, we.... forgot.

Per the Creator's request, I will now lock the door, and Zoners will noodle out the results, before deciding to pursue the suggested changes with another Draft, and another round of debate and bitc... eh.. voting.

Thanks!

Mal