' Wrote:*coughs*

Don't go accusing OSI of stealing H3 when we saw IC|Plymouth doing exactly that. Try to get your story straight.

' Wrote:Well unless he's god of the Zoners I'm not sure how he can speak for all of them. We simply have an agreement with a different group of player zoners. We supply their base in exchange for favors, I don't see how its the end of the world. At least that's how I was handling the RP, I cant speak for Charos there.

Its also related to Interspace Commerce because we had to clean up the mess after it looked like it was going to get pinned on us when I can account for every one of our transports going in and out of Saitama except one Bison, which we apologized and paid for.

' Wrote:I'm not the god of Zoners, but I happen to be one of the more veteran Zoner players and the leader (2iC) of OSI, which happens to be one of the two official Zoner factions. Meaning, I can influence Zoner stuff to the extent that OSI is allowed to do so by the admins and development team.

You are twisting Zoner lore in order to fit your objectives. You claim to have an agreement with another group of player Zoners, when in fact those 'players' are your alts. By your own admission. Twisting another factions lore so that you can make use of a game feature is poor form for an official faction.

As for trying to blame OSI for stealing helium-3? This isn't the OSI feedback thread, if you want to throw baseless accusations around because your hand got caught in the cookie jar, take it to our thread so we can discuss it there.

' Wrote:Uh Charos nice one there but it was actually your carrier and your idea. As for you Daedric I don't really see how it's any of your business. At least IC isn't using it to steal free Helium-3 from Kishiro's base unlike your faction.

' Wrote:I don't really consider it "caught" because we never made any attempt to hide it. Is jump trading all we do? Not even close. Do I think that we have to do it to remain competitive as a trading faction in 4.86? Yes.

If you want to use your faction's official rights to prevent all Zoners from working with IC that is your right, but I would expect it to be challenged on the grounds of abuse.

' Wrote:I'm not using any faction right to stop anyone from doing anything. I am merely stating that what you are doing is very poor form from an official faction. Again, you are twisting and making Zoner lore what you want it to be to justify what you are doing.

To reiterate:

1. You're twisting Zoner lore to suit your objectives.
2. You don't have an agreement with other players, you're using alts to do this. You admitted to this.
3. When your own members (I think they are IC members) brought up the point you basically told them that was the way it was. Looked to me like most of them felt the same as I do. In fact I know they do because they're the ones that leaked the logs!

I can issue faction right 5 orders for all Zoner capitals to stay out of house space as by lore those capitals don't go into house space. I quite frankly don't want to as that would block hundreds of avenues of role play and I'm all for freedom of role play. As long as you aren't twisting lore merely to suit your need to use a faction's technology.

Perhaps instead of trying to twist another factions lore around you can contact those that by lore you have close relations with. Hessians? Golden Chicks? The houses? Ask for an aged vessel for use as a jump platform. Role play instead of power gaming.

' Wrote:As for you Charos you haven't logged in an IC| character in over a month, you told the faction's skype channel that you quit Discovery and two of the three board members (the only other being you) have now asked you to step down as faction leader.

' Wrote:You're really going to hammer this for the rest of the eternity? I said that 1-2 months ago due to exam period but after it was over I came back and took control of things again. Vulkhard Muller is not a board member as you think but the Chief of Security, it's just a title.

This is getting silly, if I didn't know better I'd think that you're planning for a coup and turn IC to a Rheinland-loving faction!

' Wrote:

If that's the case then: