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RE: ZA: End war talk - t0l - 09-01-2013
Why don't we settle it iRP?
RE: ZA: End war talk - Lythrilux - 09-01-2013
fite me iRP.
Seriously, what if we have an ACTUAL EVENT WAR to decide this?
It's bad to suggest, but it would show why the whole ZA thing is a bad idea because it'd get nuked into oblivion by the superiorly large fleets of their enemies.
RE: ZA: End war talk - Oorn - 09-01-2013
After going through all "nomorerp" "skypeskypeskype" "noustupid" in this thread, thats how this situation looks IRP to me. Noone so far posted anything reasonable and structured about AI vs ZA so i'm just going of ZA vs Order.
1) ZA is big militarised organisation aimed towards protecting zoners through EXCESSIVE military strength. In order to further that strength they started developing recently designed cloaking devices on their factories.
2) Order notices involvment of ZA with questionable suplies that are required to produce devices that recently became popular in Sirius.
3) Order makes an ULTIMATUM to major (power-wise) military faction of their only ALLIES in Omicrons. Instead of fighting Core, or targeting factions that are involved with possibly deadly alien artifacts, they target a fortified instalation of their only allies that grabed some useless corpses.
4) Having military strength no inferior to Order [courtesy of Jinx], ZA refuses demands made by Order, as having their military power reduced for purely speculative reasons as well as losing any authority they have in the sector seems unaxeptable to them.
5) As if war vs Core and Nomads and loss od Minor wasn't enough they start open siege versus heavily fotified system of their allies.
6) Other Zoner groups view ZA actions as wrong, and take Order stance, refusing them any support while suporting Order, and pushing Order "diplomatic" solutions that limit ZA in various ways.
Sooooo... Since when atacking fortifed instalation of your only ally because of some theoretical danger of nomad remains is better RP than self defense?
Please tell me Omicron&co, which irp part i got wrong here.
RE: ZA: End war talk - UK1 - 09-01-2013
Seriously people can we please stop the pointless arguing here.
All past events have past.
Theirs nothing either of us can do or say to make it justified or better.
I ask you people let the issue go.
Currently still waiting for the POB's to be re-activated for us to do what we said we were to end all this.
If anyone hasn't been keeping up with the details.
We announced to the community that to keep the peace and bring order and tranquility to omicron 74.
We will be withdrawing the kappa and comm weapon platforms from the jump holes back to the stations/bases and resetting them back to neutral status.
Also zoner IFF affiliation.
The continued arguing and finger pointing is just a waste of repeated time.
Can we please look towards the future and not the past....
Could someone please lock this tread until the bases are re-activated as theres no point in making any futher comments etc...
Signed Zoner-Mow Second in command of the Zoner Alliance
RE: ZA: End war talk - Crackpunch - 09-01-2013
(09-01-2013, 10:07 PM)Oorn Wrote: 1) ZA is big militarised organisation aimed towards protecting zoners through EXCESSIVE military strength. In order to further that strength they started developing recently designed cloaking devices on their factories.
Stop right there. That doesn't make sense at all inRP, so ZA should be stopped right there.
RE: ZA: End war talk - Spike Seadra - 09-01-2013
What is ZA anyway ? (nerd)
And what war are they talking about ?
RE: ZA: End war talk - Oorn - 09-01-2013
(09-01-2013, 10:23 PM)Crackpunch Wrote:Zoners are militarised ingame by devs. It's only reason all that zoner drama happens. Are you saying all those pobs don't exist irp? Doesn't matter either way, even if they don't have all those pobs, it's still Order directing big military force towards their allies. Rest of my post still stands(09-01-2013, 10:07 PM)Oorn Wrote: 1) ZA is big militarised organisation aimed towards protecting zoners through EXCESSIVE military strength. In order to further that strength they started developing recently designed cloaking devices on their factories.
Stop right there. That doesn't make sense at all inRP, so ZA should be stopped right there.
RE: ZA: End war talk - Spike Seadra - 09-01-2013
So Zoners vs zoners, why did ZA started it the first place....hmm ?
also why PoBs spam ?
RE: ZA: End war talk - Omicron - 09-01-2013
Oorn, your entire logic fails with first time you assume Zoners can actually live through conquest and military firepower which is against the very Zoner lore. Also Order is incomprehensibly bigger war-party in comparison to Zoners, military-wise. Only militaries of houses can outdwarf Order or Core fleets.
Edit: to houses, I include Sairs & OC as semi-houses but not even them see ZA as worthy risking open war with The Order.
RE: ZA: End war talk - Spike Seadra - 09-01-2013
its ok end the war