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Rheinland Military Message Dump - marauder - 01-15-2007
Intelligence warning:
Battleship Koblenz in the Frankfurt system has reported that a nomad Battleship flew past it.
The last confirmed sighting had it heading towards the system's sun.
No further contact has been reported in Frankfurt.
Recommend all ships and bases go to standby alert.
Report ends:
Rheinland Military Message Dump - pchwang - 01-19-2007
Transmit to : RM High Command
Transmit From : SA Headquarters
Comm ID: Gurney, Harrison
Greetings, my brethren of Rheinland. Times are hard these days, with crime, smuggling, and terrorism rampant.
Although no formal agreements have been made before, I am now officially asking you to sign a pact of alliance, or at least, mutual agreement with the Southern Alliance of Liberty. There has been more or less an invisible treaty between our two nations, and I, representing the interests of the SA, would like you to join us in our mutual pact formally.
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The agreements of the pact are as follows.
1) The Southern Alliance(From now on the SA) and the Rheinland Military(From now on the RM) will agree to a perpetual and binding alliance in which both parties will respond to the aggressors of one or of the other party. In such a case where both parties are being threatened by different aggressors, both parties shall engage in the non-discriminating elimination of all the aggressors that pose a threat to either party.
2) Members of the SA will be allowed to travel into RM controlled space without hindrance. Members of the RM will be allowed to travel into SA controlled space without hindrance. Hindrance is defined here as no demands to stop and no scanning without the permission of the party in question.
3) Members of the SA will assist RM operations within RM controlled Space if asked, and if those operations are taking place within a range of 15K. The RM will assist SA operations within SA controlled Space if asked, and if those operations are taking place within a range to be determined by the RM. If and only if there is a dire and pressing issue at hand, can this be voided.
4) The SA will not carry out its normal duties, such as patroling and scanning for contraband unless specifically asked by RM personel. In addition, any SA members within RM controlled space is to STRICTLY comply to ALL laws and regulations laid out by the RM, regardless of any laws and regulations laid out by the SA.
5) If and when the RM is in any part of SA controlled space and participating in an operation carried out by the SA, the RM member will be regarded at a very respected, but subservient member of the party. Unless the operation is a joint operation, SA Commanding Officers will retain their roles as commanding officers, the RM merely advisors. The same will apply to SA officers in RM space.
6) If and when any member of the RM is in any part of the SA, the RM may choose to carry out its normal duties or not to do so. If and when the RM will carry out its normal duties in SA controlled space, all regulations and policies laid out by the RM are null and void. If and when members of RM choose to carry out these duties, they will comply with the Modus Operandi of the SA.
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I will also be sending a similar message to the KTA and the SF for their approval. With this alliance, I hope that we will be able to defend Sirius to the greatest of our abilities, and preserve our ideals of peace, freedom, and friendship.
Thank you.
Rheinland Military Message Dump - Colm Cillian - 01-22-2007
Plunderer,
Have you seen the term from SA? The nerve of it all making demands like that...not only does he expect us to support his operations.....but in a "subservient role? I can't speak for command, but if I have to some save some snot nose what got in over his head I'm certainly not going to place my cruiser under his command.
And whats this supposed to mean?
Quote: "Hindrance is defined here as no demands to stop and no scanning without the permission of the party in question."Sounds like their trying to hide something from us, else they wouldn't be afraid of being scanned. I'm going to get in touch with my BHG contacts and see what i can find out, maybe you should do the same with you're IMG comrades.
Oh, and my courier has package for you in his ship I suggest you try it out planet side.
Fiona.
Rheinland Military Message Dump - Wolfpack98 - 01-22-2007
I have to make a point here.
SA terms #4 and #2 contradict eachother.
Why ?
Cause if RM asks you to report in for inspection, then you better damn well do so. We don't let just anyone go in and about RM space for anything, even our allies are subject to the "stop and scan" deal when they are within visual range.
Rheinland Military Message Dump - pchwang - 01-22-2007
That was my fault. I'll submit a a revised version...What had happened was there were two versions of the treaty, and I was a little hurried the second time I had to revise it, and left bits and pieces of the old one in there.
@ Colm Cillian, I was seriously trying to find a better word instead of subservient...brain freeze at the time...I did not mean that in a derogatory fashion. It is essentially a more lenient version of how 4 would apply to you. In addition, note respected advisors, not servants.
It just means that any RM in Liberty will be considered a friendly military presence, but they will have no authority, and must follow SA laws and regulations.
I'm sorry if this has caused anyone grief or has been condescending to anyone.
Thank you. In addition, to clarify on our policy, RM vessels will not be scanned. It would only add more work for us, something we are already overburdened with at the moment.
Rheinland Military Message Dump - Lump Lorry - 01-22-2007
' Wrote:Thank you. In addition, to clarify on our policy, RM vessels will not be scanned. It would only add more work for us, something we are already overburdened with at the moment.
I'm probably the last ring in RM command chain, thus my opinion is just mine... but I guess Wolf and Cillian were saying that... in SA space you can scan RM or don't do it. It's your choice and whatever will be the rule, RM will comply when flying in SA space. But when in RM space, SA will be scanned as many time as we like to do it; and also SA must stop in order to allow RM to scan them and wait for our permission before beginning to move again. Since this is exactly what happens with everybody else, alliate forces included.
Rheinland Military Message Dump - pchwang - 01-23-2007
Here is a revised version of the treaty. As I mentioned before, there were two versions, and I rushed on combing them together. But if you notice the older document(now voided), in most of them, except for #2, I imply that the RM has freedom of choice. I must have slipped on #2 there.
I do not mean to be offensive or demeaning, and Colm, we are certainly not "hiding" anything. In fact, we will most likely never enter RM space at all.
The agreements of the pact are as follows.
1) The Southern Alliance (From now on the SA) and the Rheinland Military (From now on the RM) will agree to a perpetual and binding alliance in which both parties will respond to the aggressors of one or of the other party. In such a case where both parties are being threatened by different aggressors, both parties shall engage in the non-discriminating elimination of all the aggressors that pose a threat to either party.
2) Members of the RM will be allowed to travel into SA controlled space without hindrance. Hindrance is defined here as no demands to stop and no scanning without the permission of the party in question.
3) Members of the SA will assist RM operations within RM controlled Space if asked. The RM will assist SA operations within SA controlled Space if asked, and if those operations are taking place within a range to be determined by the RM. If and only if there is a dire and pressing issue at hand, can this be voided.
4) The SA will not carry out its normal duties, such as patrolling and scanning for contraband unless specifically asked by RM personnel. In addition, any SA members within RM controlled space is to STRICTLY comply to ALL laws and regulations laid out by the RM, regardless of any laws and regulations laid out by the SA.
5) If and when the RM is in any part of SA controlled space and participating in an operation carried out by the SA, the RM member cannot exercise his or her rank over a SA member. Unless the operation is a joint operation, SA Commanding Officers will retain their roles as commanding officers. The same will apply to SA officers in RM space.
6) If and when any member of the RM is in any part of the SA, the RM may choose to carry out its normal duties or not to do so. If and when the RM will carry out its normal duties in SA controlled space, all regulations and policies laid out by the RM are null and void. If and when members of RM choose to carry out these duties, they will comply with the laws and regulations laid out by the SA.
7) The SA will respect all and any members of the RM, and we hope that you will do so vice versa.
Rheinland Military Message Dump - Lump Lorry - 01-23-2007
' Wrote:2) Members of the RM will be allowed to travel into SA controlled space without hindrance. Hindrance is defined here as no demands to stop and no scanning without the permission of the party in question.
Comment from the last ring in the chain: "this sounds like if you want a complete freedom of contrabband in RM space".
Rheinland Military Message Dump - pchwang - 01-23-2007
I hate to do this in the RM's message dump, and I know it most likely is not your fault, Lorry, you are not a native speaker.
What number 2 says is: The RM can carry contraband into the SA, and most likely will not be stopped or scanned. NOT the other way around.
The issue when the SA is in RM space is defined in number 4 of the pact.
Rheinland Military Message Dump - Virus - 01-23-2007
OoC: You're all done with the chatter, now.
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Dear sirs and/or madams of the South Alliance,
Your current request for an alliance at this time is unacceptable.
Since the Nomad Invasion, Liberty has done nothing but slap reparations on us in order to pay for supposed damages we caused. Take that in account with our own economic problems, and you have placed an unfair burden on us we cannot hope to free ourselves from.
Now that a specialized military force has assembled and you are already under attack, you expect us to help you with open arms? I say "No!"
You can take this treaty back to whatever demented mind it came from with my dagger in it. You will not send another insult like this again, and if you do there will be dire consequences for your folly.
Sincerely,
Admirals Reinhardt and Krieg