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+------ Thread: Rorry's Renegades |RR (/showthread.php?tid=76537)
Rorry's Renegades |RR - dodike - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:Freelancer Pirate ID - ZOI? Pretty much anywhere. PvP Limitation? A demand.I think you fail to understand how technology usage and IDs work.
Since they can just take generic bounties on Corsairs and Gallic Royals, I don't see much pewpew limitation.
Its mine and many others' top gunboat, but I don't get to use it without being Order. Especially not with some weak, short roleplay about 'retrieval'. Of course they would leave their ships lying around.
Great, so you've given permission. Fine. What about the rest?
Exactly. Just because it follows the rules does not mean it is not a problem.
Exactly.
This.
Just because it is RPed for does not mean it is okay. I'm gonna go roleplay theft of a Kusari Battleship on my Outcast, then go pewpew in Liberty. Furthermore, I'll equip it with 'retrieved' Order turrets. Sounds like fun?
I don't condone Reaver actions or any other faction, but you are the subject, not them.
That you had the technology before the buff is irrelevant; you still have it, you're still stacking it and other tech. Things need to be updated over time.
There's a reason we don't have open access to Phantom tech and IDs. There is a reason we don't have tech and ID freedom. However, you appear to be doing your best to circumvent that for maximum pewpew.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - mwerte - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:The fact remains that I DID NOT say it was ok for my members to break the rules. (again you're doing something that is below you mate, lying...)
' Wrote:I have no problem with a one of my members shooting fleeing transports that are trying to make a quick get away while the pirate is typing his demand.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Laerethe - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:HURRAY!:yahoo:It seems you still haven't read the OP.....:mellow:
Please mate, stop replying to me and READ the OP. I will know you've read it once you stop replying, because all of your little "issues" will have been answered.
My issues will not be answered. My grievance is not that you haven't roleplayed your tech; it is that you have far too much from far too many sources, outside ZOI and RP bounds.
Yes, you're limiting yourselves to Rheinland, two systems outside and all of the Sigmas, Omegas, Omicrons, plus the entirety of Gallia. That isn't the point; you have greater ZOI than most with far greater tech.
You are ignoring my grievance and telling me to read the OP; how about you read my post and try to comprehend what you're missing.
' Wrote:I think you fail to understand how technology usage and IDs work.
A minor nerf on a gunboat isn't going to stop you. The same applies elsewhere; Freelancer IDs only have small nerfs.
I think you fail to understand the balance issue, among other things.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - JayDee Kasane - 03-21-2012
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Anoher Edit: I knew that my words will be ignored and faction will still here, but I hope at least dont see another group of terrorists around Omegas. Not that im QQ about how many players attacking Corsairs and how many enemys of Sairs now, but at least think about ballance: right now by Lore Corsairs must attack Bretonia and Omegas to gain more territory and power, but they just siting on Crete awaiting another raid from RR/MM/Hessians..... You ruining Lore by creating more and more PvP factions.
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I did not sayed: Disban RR NAO!!! I did not. Just sayed my opinion. no need to rage on me. and no need to think Im raging now. just about ballance and fair play
I just hope this would be last terrorist faction in Omega-Rheinland space that hostile to only Corsairs
Rorry's Renegades |RR - MÃmir - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:I'm gonna go roleplay theft of a Kusari Battleship on my Outcast, then go pewpew in Liberty. Furthermore, I'll equip it with 'retrieved' Order turrets. Sounds like fun?
Cool! If you came up with a great back story, I would read it. However, you wouldn't been having much pewpew-fun seeing that your new OC Kusari BS with Order turrets would be nerfed to useless...
Newsflash: We have the new nerfchart, and the old ways of understanding faction tech is out the window. "Right" and "wrong" is solely dictated by server and ID rules, and whatever reservations the involved factions might have should be played out in-rp.
End of story.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - dodike - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:A minor nerf on a gunboat isn't going to stop you. The same applies elsewhere; Freelancer IDs only have small nerfs.Here we go again. You fail to understand that if you have a problem with balance of generic IDs, it has nothing to do with this faction. It doesn't belong here.
I think you fail to understand the balance issue, among other things.
Anyone else using generic ID can do the same, not just RR.
I'm not saying everything is balanced, I'm saying your concerns don't belong here but to developer section.
Edit: I'm not a member of this faction.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Veygaar - 03-21-2012
Alright lets cool things down a bit shall we?
@Apotheosis: If you have a problem with balance issues see devs, though I assure you a FL nerfed GB is extremely crippled.
@mwerte: Exactly, no rule is broken there.
@JayDee: Sorry if I sounded harsh. You're opinion does matter, just as everyone elses here. We take it all into consideration.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Laerethe - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:Cool! If you came up with a great back story, I would read it. However, you wouldn't been having much pewpew-fun seeing that your new OC Kusari BS with Order turrets would be nerfed to useless...
Newsflash: We have the new nerfchart, and the old ways of understanding faction tech is out the window. "Right" and "wrong" is solely dictated by server and ID rules, and whatever reservations the involved factions might have should be played out in-rp.
End of story.
The specifics are irrelevant, and besides the point. The point is that RR are abusing the tech system and IDs in order to use the top tech over their enemies.
' Wrote:Here we go again. You fail to understand that if you have a problem with balance of generic IDs, it has nothing to do with this faction. It doesn't belong here.
Anyone else using generic ID can do the same, not just RR.
I'm not saying everything is balanced, I'm saying your concerns don't belong here but to developer section.
Why don't they belong here? I'm posting here under the assumption that RR have the decency to respect the balance issues and perhaps make some altercations.
The generic ID available tech is specifically designed to be less desirable than faction tech, to encourage cooperation. However, just because you can still fly all this junk with a 10%/25% nerf, does not mean you should.
Nobody wants to see Order ships pirating in Rheinland, cooperation with many other factions' technology, simply because it is an eyesore for both RP and PvP situations.
Now you're trying to gain officialdom and your own ID; said ID is likely, at the current rate, to give you NO nerf on the technology you're requesting. Suddenly the balance issue becomes much, much worse; we no longer have the nerf as consolation, and you have free tech.
' Wrote:Alright lets cool things down a bit shall we?
@Apotheosis: If you have a problem with balance issues see devs, though I assure you a FL nerfed GB is extremely crippled.
@mwerte: Exactly, no rule is broken there.
@JayDee: Sorry if I sounded harsh. You're opinion does matter, just as everyone elses here. We take it all into consideration.
Or.. you could decide not to be so frivolous with your tech and limit yourselves to increase the enjoyment of everyone you interact with. We can't do it, why should you?
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Vrabcek - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:@mwerte: Exactly, no rule is broken there.
From the discussion you both are having here I can tell that rule or not, any feedback shouldnt be threat like this:
' Wrote:"I expected more from you then rulelawyering"
When I was leading a faction I actually was happy that people PMed me with their complains about my members so I could simply do better to make the faction as whole better.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Veygaar - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:Or.. you could decide not to be so frivolous with your tech and limit yourselves to increase the enjoyment of everyone you interact with. We can't do it, why should you?We're not frivolous with it. You just can't seem to see that. You keep expounding upon situations that don't even exist. Sair/AFA tech being used against sairs, Order tech in Rheinland etc etc. None of which is happening...
And god forbid we have a Gunboat that has no nerf just like normal factions right?!
And I hope you understand that we don't get no nerf to all that tech if we go official. I hope you know how it all works and aren't just creating these delusions of grandeur in your head from which to be freighted of.
We are, in no way, overpowered. We are, in no way, trying to become overpowered.
EDIT-
' Wrote:When I was leading a faction I actually was happy that people PMed me with their complains about my members so I could simply do better to make the faction as whole better.I am this way as well, so long as it has a valid point behind it. There was no way to make my faction better as a whole from the situation I was given.
It's akin to someone coming to me and say "hey one of your idiot members tried to pirate me, wtf man?!" My only reply would be: "Well duh."