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+------ Thread: Rorry's Renegades |RR (/showthread.php?tid=76537)
Rorry's Renegades |RR - dodike - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:Then there is no reason to take LR ships with the logical Sammaels over another ship with Sammaels, aside from potential nuances.Once again you addressing a problem that is not limited to this faction but reaches far beyond.
I'm acknowledging what you're saying, but the issue exists and must be raised.
Remember that the problem is most apparent in groups, as with Novas - a small nerf on several people will make little difference in the end.
For it to be balanced, the nerf would have to match other ships weaponry/tech, which it often doesn't.
You should really look here.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Yber - 03-21-2012
Well mate, sometimes getting stuff from factions is more about RP than OP'd PvP setups. Me, as member of RR, would indeed defend this. But nonetheless, I own a KuEx that have full LR turrets and merc ID (no RR ship). I got the turrets just to show very clear my stance with my LR contractors. Everybody knows LR ones aren't the best turrets so far, if you get what I mean.
It's just an example. Hope you understood it finally.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Laerethe - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:Once again you addressing a problem that is not limited to this faction but reaches far beyond.
You should really look here.
But is relevant because the problem becomes far worse when done in large quantities in a group, and is one that must be addressed.
' Wrote:Well mate, sometimes getting stuff from factions is more about RP than OP'd PvP setups. Me, as member of RR, would indeed defend this. But nonetheless, I own a KuEx that have full LR turrets and merc ID (no RR ship). I got the turrets just to show very clear my stance with my LR contractors. Everybody knows LR ones aren't the best turrets so far, if you get what I mean.
It's just an example. Hope you understood it finally.
That's fine; if you're a mercernary affiliated strongly with LR(alliance, contracts etc.), its okay. However, you should stick to that; if you're going to be running amok in Rheinland and other systems doing nothing for your contractors, it becomes somewhat irritating, and leads to the 'pewpew' accusations, as you've been seeing.
If you've got the equipment, be responsible for it. We don't want to see you taking Rheinland lawful equipment and using it to fight the RM, and their allies and so on. Don't use your tech where you simply shouldn't. Okay, you may be prevented partially by the nerf system, but that is besides the point.
LR have no business in Corsair space, just as Corsairs have no business in LR space. We respect that in regards to IDs, but you don't wish to in regards to tech, which just seems to ask for pewpew.
It becomes worse for you when it is Order tech, Sammaels and other equipment which is seen as top-of-the-range.
You're limited less than others, so I feel that you should respect that freedom.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - dodike - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:But is relevant because the problem becomes far worse when done in large quantities in a group, and is one that must be addressed.Again, this doesn't apply only to this faction. If you think some gear is poorly balanced in group fights, you should talk to devs.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Charos - 03-21-2012
When words don't do the trick, weapons sure do!
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So stop arguing about which guns are better and go shoot each other and find out how "good" they are.
Doesn't matter if RR has ships and guns from all over Sirius and Gallia, they can die if you use teamwork.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Yber - 03-21-2012
In fact, once I get my guns, I could just break the contract and become an independent pirate. Then, LR would become hostil to me, and they would engage me. I would shoot them with their guns. Aswell as I would shoot any lawful or pirate who I want to get on.
It makes perfect sense as far as it's InRP. That's our case. I don't see your point. Again, once you "earn" the tech, the old ZoI restrictions somehow dissapear, and the new ZoI becomes the one you chose.
Edit: Aclaration, ZoI stuff for factions, of course.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Laerethe - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:Again, this doesn't apply only to this faction. If you think some gear is poorly balanced in group fights, you should talk to devs.
But it still applies, and it is an issue, and this is the relevant place to inform them of this. So why can I not ask them to step up to the responsibility of it?
' Wrote:When words don't do the trick, weapons sure do!
So stop arguing about best guns and go shoot each other and find out how "good" they are.
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Yeah, thanks for that.
' Wrote:In fact, once I get my guns, I could just break the contract and become an independent pirate. Then, LR would become hostil to me, and they would engage me. I would shoot them with their guns. Aswell as I would shoot any lawful or pirates who I want to get on.
It makes perfect sense as far as it's InRP. That's our case. I don't see your point. Again, once you "earn" the tech, the old ZoI restrictions somehow dissapear, and the new ZoI becomes the one you chose.
But you would be in Rheinland, so there are no repercussions. So you get free tech.
Its fine for you to affiliate yourselves with one or two factions to back you with tech and bases, but not that many and with such a huge amount of tech. Especially Order.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Vrabcek - 03-21-2012
I would not like to see the gallians in Rheinland yet : ((
Rorry's Renegades |RR - dodike - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:But it still applies, and it is an issue, and this is the relevant place to inform them of this. So why can I not ask them to step up to the responsibility of it?Well, you can. I however don't think they perceive their already nerfed tech as overpowered.
Actually I can't recall a faction that actually acknowledged their gear as OP.
Rorry's Renegades |RR - Laerethe - 03-21-2012
' Wrote:Well, you can. I however don't think they perceive their already nerfed tech as overpowered.
Actually I can't recall a faction that actually acknowledged their gear as OP.
Their perception is not necessarily correct.