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RE: ZA: End war talk - shcore22 - 09-02-2013
i have been away for 3 months and i keep seeing '' ZA talks.. '' and it looks like it's another ECG ..
ZA.. just... just leave.. no one want another noob group
RE: ZA: End war talk - sindroms - 09-02-2013
I still remember when the [RA] were in the center of attention...
RE: ZA: End war talk - Lythrilux - 09-02-2013
(09-02-2013, 10:37 AM)shcore22 Wrote: i have been away for 3 months and i keep seeing '' ZA talks.. '' and it looks like it's another ECG ..
ZA.. just... just leave.. no one want another noob group
Funny you should say that, they had ECG working for them killing other corsairs.
RE: ZA: End war talk - shcore22 - 09-02-2013
(09-02-2013, 10:43 AM)Lythrilux Wrote:(09-02-2013, 10:37 AM)shcore22 Wrote: i have been away for 3 months and i keep seeing '' ZA talks.. '' and it looks like it's another ECG ..
ZA.. just... just leave.. no one want another noob group
Funny you should say that, they had ECG working for them killing other corsairs.
Well.. that's even worse
RE: ZA: End war talk - Zoner-Trader - 09-02-2013
*chuckle*
ECG dont work for us, we supply crete and they took notice...as for locking down the system, we didnt...the bases were set at first for Zoner aff, then neutral when people complained, then back to Zoner and then during the conflict to hostile, then back to neutral and then zoner.
But then you cant please everyone can you???
As for recruiting people, we try but they turn out to be Order *chuckle*
So really in all, it matters not what you think about us...as really were the evil one's arnt we??? Because we tell the Order(good guys) where to go...im sure if we were all grey men it would be such a boring game. But then im ZA its never boring *smile*
As for the Omicrons, quiet isnt it since the POB problem occured. Im looking forward to further hatemail etc which i can laugh at and share with the other members of ZA....when we get 4.87 and maybe a return of the POB's at the same time.
In all life was brought back to a distant part of sirius...not such a bad thing is it?
And abit of life to ailing Groups, who's activity was dying.
And a change to what people keep refering to as 'Zoner ways', how wrong that is...but what is a Zoner is the question everyone keeps asking...only to get told read the I.D. *chuckle*
Well lets see ill keep it simple,
anyone play RPG games, ok well you have Elves they come in several forms Wood Elves, Mountain Elves etc but then there are the Dark Elves who dont conform to the rules set by the other Elves....yet people still in rpg recognise them as Elves.
Lets just say were the Zoners who dont conform to everyone elses rules about what Zoners should be like. We are in all Zoners but forced by developments to develop into another form of Zoner.
oh god this could go on forever but hey im happy to continue till you accept a different outlook on types of Zoner's or even anyone else...iv never seen a french man wearing a berat and a blue/white hooped jumper and carring onions around his neck while cycling though its the stero type isnt it? Shouldnt all frenchman be like that?
RE: ZA: End war talk - Crackpunch - 09-02-2013
(09-02-2013, 11:14 AM)Zoner-Trader Wrote: Well lets see ill keep it simple,
anyone play RPG games, ok well you have Elves they come in several forms Wood Elves, Mountain Elves etc but then there are the Dark Elves who dont conform to the rules set by the other Elves....yet people still in rpg recognise them as Elves.
Lets just say were the Zoners who dont conform to everyone elses rules about what Zoners should be like. We are in all Zoners but forced by developments to develop into another form of Zoner.
Save some paste for the other kids.
A Zoner is not a race, it is a lifestyle. If you do not conform to the Zoner lifestyle, then you are not a Zoner.
RE: ZA: End war talk - Thyrzul - 09-02-2013
(09-02-2013, 08:49 AM)Zoner-Trader Wrote: What annoyed us was the fact that Phoenix had argued about having a POB near Lividia would cause problems, the only reason why Mow agreed to their request...then what happens Phoenix shove a POB on top of Lividia...ok well i guess it doesnt stick in our throats about that or would it????
Guess what, Phoenix are the official Zoners around, also backed by the Order, it is only understandable if there will be a base over Livadia, they want it to be theirs. Livadia administration is in their hands, of course they can tell you to dismantle your base blocking the way to an extension to the shipyard...
(09-02-2013, 08:49 AM)Zoner-Trader Wrote: doing nothing but saying its none of our buisness about Nomads.
And they are quite right here. Want to shoot Nomads? Join Order.
(09-02-2013, 08:49 AM)Zoner-Trader Wrote: Then the other demands start flowing, you will hand over the stations, you will get rid of the weapons platforms etc etc ....
I bet there has been way more happening between the two than you just described, but I leave the details to the ones who were part of the events.
(09-02-2013, 08:49 AM)Zoner-Trader Wrote: Also the fact we had cargo ships none-tag helping us, makes no diff...i loved that complaint..well if a nation is at war they will use any means and all means to resupply.
So you are saying those non-[ZA]-tagged alt characters weren't yours? Riiiiiight... I guess for example the AI- tagged ones were just another random bunch conincidentally being there and joining your cause against all odds too...
(09-02-2013, 08:49 AM)Zoner-Trader Wrote: Ok well next Role Play, we have tried but our first major roleplay with Order was a joke, how can you rp with anyone if they ignore you or just are plainly rude?
Pretty much sounds like how you guys handled diplomacy too...
(09-02-2013, 08:49 AM)Zoner-Trader Wrote: Yes so "Were at WAR no RP" is correct...situation is this, people have got this idea war is meant to be fair...we have more ships we win...nope....we control the systems we win...nope..we have more skype friends than you, we win...nope...we have more allies than you ingame, we win....nope...we have destroyed your bases, we win....yes!
So basically you admit giving up RP on an RP server for the sake of pew along with admitting to exploiting an Alpha-stage game mechanic with faulty balance and consider it as a way to legitimely powerplay your RP disregarding already existing RP? That concept is far from how the story actually evolves. And now you lost your bases, go, play the big boy now...
(09-02-2013, 11:14 AM)Zoner-Trader Wrote: ECG dont work for us, we supply crete and they took notice...as for locking down the system, we didnt...the bases were set at first for Zoner aff, then neutral when people complained, then back to Zoner and then during the conflict to hostile, then back to neutral and then zoner.
Basically ECG were the only Corsairs joining in the conflict (and a few indies on both sides of conflict). They even went against the will of the Elders, who stated Corsairs should stay out of this conflict and concentrate on other matters.
People don't complain about a base which doesn't shoot them. Have you heard of Blackpool Defense Annex? It was quite fine with all it's platforms around the New London JumpGate in Manchester, nobody ever complained about it up until the point it started to shoot people. It is just obvious your stations started to shoot who they shouldn't have, and those got angry on you.
People don't complain about a base which doesn't shoot them. Have you heard of Blackpool Defense Annex? It was quite fine with all it's platforms around the New London JumpGate in Manchester, nobody ever complained about it up until the point it started to shoot people. It is just obvious your stations started to shoot who they shouldn't have, and those got angry on you.
(09-02-2013, 11:14 AM)Zoner-Trader Wrote: But then you cant please everyone can you???
Of course you can. You only need to use your brain and think of possible scenarios in which you can do so. But oh wait, guess what, a few of us (including me) have already made your job easier by providing such scenarios. You only need to act accordingly, and you can please your surroundings while maintaining your operations.
(09-02-2013, 11:14 AM)Zoner-Trader Wrote: In all life was brought back to a distant part of sirius...not such a bad thing is it?
And abit of life to ailing Groups, who's activity was dying.
If only you would have brought back activity to the server through RP which actually makes sense, your reputation within the community wouldn't be this crappy. There are many other ways to spice up activity in the Omicrons without screwing up RolePlay.
And yes, as Crackpunch said, Zoner is not a House, Zoner is not a nation, Zoner is not a race, it is a lifestyle and if you fail to accomodate yourselves to this lifestile, you cease to be Zoners.
And yes, as Crackpunch said, Zoner is not a House, Zoner is not a nation, Zoner is not a race, it is a lifestyle and if you fail to accomodate yourselves to this lifestile, you cease to be Zoners.
RE: ZA: End war talk - sindroms - 09-02-2013
Like pretty much every zoner faction that went official.
RE: ZA: End war talk - Zoner-Trader - 09-02-2013
(09-02-2013, 11:34 AM)Crackpunch Wrote: A Zoner is not a race, it is a lifestyle. If you do not conform to the Zoner lifestyle, then you are not a Zoner.
Ok *chuckle* again lifestyle...lifestyle really??? thats the best argument you can offer...
Lets proceed down that road then....
Im making a cup of tea, suddenly someone runs in and steals the sugar...which would then make my cup of tea incomplete...so my life style is disrupted.
I then have to chase the said thief to get my sugar back....my life style that was suddenly normal has turned upside down.
Lets apply that to a Zoner..
A Zoner is making his way in a transport ship minding his own buisness when suddenly out jumps a pirate and demands payment...nothing wrong sofar its part of the lifestyle...after paying the pirate isnt satisfied and blows up the Zoner...oops Lifestyle has suddenly changed for the Zoner.
The Zoner is a robot and so proceeds to do the same thing and the same thing above occurs....oops starting to become part of the lifestyle..
Then something happens, the Zoner wakes up from his slumber and says to himself "Hold on one second this isnt fair!!" he then invests in his creds into a Battleship..
And continues to do what he did before...this time the same pirate turns up and demands creds...the Zoner knowing the outcome pays the pirate...then the pirate makes further demands because the Zoner has a Battleship and the poor pirate has a Gunboat.
The Zoner replies no and kills the pirate....now the pirate's lifestyle has changed aswell...because he changed the lifestyle of the Zoner.
My friend its the same story as the Fox and the Scorpion but this time the fox learnt his lesson.
There are always re-action's to every action...saying its a lifestyle works aswell...we decided that our lifestyle was being abused by outside groups who meant us harm...we still keep the our lifestyle but we have now the option to say NO.
RE: ZA: End war talk - Duvelske - 09-02-2013
Well guys listen..
Why do we play games? Isn't it to enjoy ourselves? Having fun and well create interaction? Ak generate other interactions rather then NPC ones? Ok not everyone knows exactly everything of a faction. But when we are born we cannot walk neither, so what if we where judged about that?
Some officials proved the same many times when inRP gathered proof was then just put down the table as they marked it as invalid RP or gathered information for inRP use.. In the end its mostly skypelancing with this:
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In general. There is nothing good, nor bad with it, but when you are fair towards yourself and towards others. You know this is the plain truth. Many factions i have seen information legally gathered inRP but which ended up with 0,0. Why? Because of skypelancing or someone who is metagaming as he does not want his faction to become hostile to faction X or Y (or whatever).
Now as this is about the Zoner Alliance [ZA], I am really stunned how people can respond. I saw how it all escalated and well i might have had a small part in it, think everyone who responded on the forums or ingame had something to do with it at least some part. But just let them play and have fun. Is it SO hard to just say hey we all want to have fun, but just keep to Zoners RP. Ak no capital ships in house space unless approved by the houses or whatever. At least if you are a TAGGED vessel i think this would be one of the things you would need to keep to.
Now sadly I am not an Moderator. Otherwise this would have been the last post and it was CLOSED. Instead you can all go on and yell how good or bad one was by doing something. So enjoy.