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RE: BHG ID shooting Libertonians for Rheinland. - Leppy - 05-31-2014

(05-31-2014, 05:02 PM)Zed26 Wrote: As I just noted here, if we are going off the information we have until an admin ruling, the BDM boards are actually classified as "quasi-lawful", not "lawful" (which the RM board is listed as). Liberty forces (and even corps if they are blockade-runners) can still be engaged, albeit along the Rheinland-Liberty border so there is less doubt. Despite the storyline, Bering and Hudson are still not classified as Liberty space by the rules, so there is far less ambiguity.

Really doesn't matter whether the issuer is lawful or quasi-lawful. The problem lies with the fact that BHG are shooting lawful parties, particularly the navy of a house. Whether or not the LN ships are in liberty, rheinland, or the borderworlds, one would think that the Liberty government would not be happy they are being shot at by the guild. Maybe this isn't against the rules, per say, but I could definitely see how this could lead to Liberty banning BHG vessels Kusari style, which is something the BHG leadership would avoid. Imho it should be against the rules though.

EDIT: If a BHG member wishes to hunt liberty ships, they should switch to the freelancer ID as that is what they have become.

One a second note, can a lawful organization (rheinland intelligence) technically issue a quasi-lawful bounty?


RE: BHG ID shooting Libertonians for Rheinland. - Zayne Carrick - 05-31-2014

Again, for all those stating "OMG, BHG ID can't shoot lawfuls", BHG officials were shooting gallics for centuries, that was decision of BHG guildmasters. Yet BHG ID have no rephack to them and some individuals even worked for them. That's because Bounty Hunters are tied together only slightly more than zoners.


RE: BHG ID shooting Libertonians for Rheinland. - Core_One - 05-31-2014

(05-31-2014, 07:04 PM)Leppy Wrote: One a second note, can a lawful organization (rheinland intelligence) technically issue a quasi-lawful bounty?

Yes it can... Example GMG Bounty Board.


RE: BHG ID shooting Libertonians for Rheinland. - Zayne Carrick - 05-31-2014

Quote:lawful organization (rheinland intelligence)
Pilot carrying this quasi-lawful ID is a member of the Marinenachrichtendienst (MND)...


RE: BHG ID shooting Libertonians for Rheinland. - Leppy - 05-31-2014

(05-31-2014, 07:20 PM)Zayne Carrick Wrote:
Quote:lawful organization (rheinland intelligence)
Pilot carrying this quasi-lawful ID is a member of the Marinenachrichtendienst (MND)...

Eh read the ID off the wiki...my bad


RE: BHG ID shooting Libertonians for Rheinland. - Jack_Henderson - 05-31-2014

BHG can only hunt unlawfuls.
It is a universally accepted and universally employed lawful hunting organisation.

Obviously, this would not work if it was shooting lawfuls.


RE: BHG ID shooting Libertonians for Rheinland. - AshHill07 - 05-31-2014

Voted cannot because I don't think the BHG would be willing to go hostile to the whole of Liberty Lawfuls, and loose all the contracts associated with such, just to do a few bounties for the RM. It doesn't make much business sense.


RE: BHG ID shooting Libertonians for Rheinland. - Just.Dave - 05-31-2014

(05-31-2014, 07:04 PM)Leppy Wrote: could definitely see how this could lead to Liberty banning BHG vessels Kusari style, which is something the BHG leadership would avoid. Imho it should be against the rules though.

well that can't happen as most/all other BHG group and indie do work with liberty/all other house even Kusari as they/we do hunt there for them. And well hunting Gallics are the only lawful that BHG| did hunt as said but that in the past and anything goes if a new group take the lead


RE: BHG ID shooting Libertonians for Rheinland. - Tutashkhia - 05-31-2014

I cannot understand why you, the majority of our community, faced this news from a new faction so negatively. I think, you all should be glad to see something new. Those guys are trying to bring back some activities in BHG, which is really dead at the moment. So let them do it so, and let's see how it goes.

I voted for "Yes" because I don't see any different from shooting Gallic lawfuls and shooting Liberty lawfuls. If it was against rules, why have been the BHG shooting the gallics for centuries, as Zayne said.

You're not used to these kind of things in Liberty, but if you think a bit more, you will understand that this kind of news can increase the activity in BHG and Freelancer. Tell me LNS captains, which do you prefer: an empty Liberty space ,or a crowded one with enemies. For both, RP and PVP, the crowded system with lots of enemies has a lot of potential.

I'm in Liberty most of times, because there're more people to interact with and to fight against. Without those two things,Freelancer is boring.


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