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How battle capable do you think the Luxury Liner is (11 turrets)..? - Jinx - 09-17-2008
transports that are capable of activly defending themselves in case of piracy:
- prison liner
- bretonian royal liner
- luxory liner
- armoured transport
- container transport
- pirate transport
- pirate train
prison liner / luxory liner
one has 9 turrets and 3700 armour - not all turrets can fire in any direction. - its very long and has quite some armour, especially with a nice caparmour ( 6+ ). its easily able to defend itself from a single bomber, but a gunboat is usually a problem, cause gunboats have a range that is much greater than the transport turrets. - so only when the gunboat is very close, its in peril. the liners can be dangerous enough to be too much trouble for pirates though. they are very durable, due to their shape, they can dodge supernovas and return fire.
royal liner
it can fire all its turrets anywhere, i think. it has a lot of armour and a lot of cargospace. its thin tube like shape makes it able to dodge supernovas and gunship fire from afar. - but it is much more a bretonian vessel than a generic "free for all transport" ( or should be at least )
container transport
12 guns, a lot of firepower are the good sides of it. a good gunner can take smaller gunships out well. - if the gunships do not fight from a larger distance ( at which the transport can escape easier from CDs ) - however, it is a MUCH MUCH larger target than a liner and draws supernova fire on it much easier, furthermore, it has a lot less armour making it a twisted battle transport. on the one hand, it offers as much firepower as a royal liner, on the other hand, it can be taken down easier. - if the opponent is skilled enough at dodging, it will be less efficient, caue it takes more damage. ( like a battleship that has a lot of firepower, but no ability to avoid taking damage )
armoured transport
not the desirable large transport, but still a transport. it is very small, very quick, heavily armoured and it has a lot of weaponpower. it does its job as one of the most efficient transports that ensures the safety for its passengers ( VIPs ) - it is a tough opponent but will not be sufficient for a player that focusses on trading, cause it has a lower cargohold.
pirate transport / pirate train
both are moderately armoured and equipped with weapons. they are both a good compromise - and their greatest advantage is their VERY small size. for their size they offer an above average firepower and armour. but are sort of restricted to the unlawful clientel.
hope that helped....
How battle capable do you think the Luxury Liner is (11 turrets)..? - Lupusy - 09-17-2008
much thx jinx -- yes i also thought the pirate transport was best value for money (9 guns for $28 mill !!)
but.. problems with it because everyoine will shoot at it:(
bit of a toss up between luxury liner and royal bretonian..
How battle capable do you think the Luxury Liner is (11 turrets)..? - Jinx - 09-17-2008
well, that one is down to your understanding of your own roleplay. - its subjective...
the luxory liner is rather generic. - although produced by spa and cruise or at least liberty. it is also sold in stuttgart. it is meant to be a more "tourist class" kind of luxory. - modern, and fashionable - if you watched the movie "the 5th element" - its supposed to be like that liner.
now, the royal liner is another quality of luxory... a more timeless, established luxory, comparable to the luxory found in senior clubs for gentlemen. a luxory that has an air of money, but no need to brag about it. however, due to that higher quality of luxory, its a little more restricted - in terms of roleplay. you could compare these two like that...
the luxory liner is a 5 star hotel at the beach of your dreams.
the royal liner is a luxory mansion at a beach of your dreams - that you have all for yourself, if you wish.
it depends on what roleplay you wish to apply. - the ID card of the royal liner suggests that its more a floating home, an estate than a liner at all. - the luxory liner however is what a liner is made for - getting from A to B with everything you need. the royal liner is not meant to get from A to B primarily - it is meant to offer all you want AND be able to get from A to B.
so, decide upon your idea of what you use the liner for. - both are not meant to fight pirates - if thats what you want. this is nothing but a side effect. they are both no warships. - they are capable, to survive - cause they are both meant to carry the most valuable cargo - which is humans. but a good captain commanding over the lifes of thousands of passengers would rather surrender if it means to spare the life of the passengers than to fight back to the death.
How battle capable do you think the Luxury Liner is (11 turrets)..? - Lupusy - 09-17-2008
iwas thinking of rping the lucky freelancer who struck it rich and is sort of looking for a floating hotel home riding round the galaxy visiting and doing the odd bit of trading. also doing some mystery and mayhem cos the true space rogue dabbles in a bit of the illicit side as well -- toppling governments, waylaying valuable cargo, assassinating evil henchmen, seducing princesses etc etc
definitely need a space hotel for the last one.
maybe a privateer ship. privateers were a bit illicit too. well as long as they can hold off pirates that would be fine. probably the royal liner... but ill compare the look.
How battle capable do you think the Luxury Liner is (11 turrets)..? - Dab - 09-17-2008
' Wrote:prison liner / luxory linerWrong.. And I'm wondering why people keep getting this wrong, since others have been telling people that its wrong throughout this thread..
one has 9 turrets and 3700 armour - not all turrets can fire in any direction. - its very long and has quite some armour, especially with a nice caparmour ( 6+ ). its easily able to defend itself from a single bomber, but a gunboat is usually a problem, cause gunboats have a range that is much greater than the transport turrets. - so only when the gunboat is very close, its in peril. the liners can be dangerous enough to be too much trouble for pirates though. they are very durable, due to their shape, they can dodge supernovas and return fire.
Prison Liner and Luxury Liner are Not the Same. Prison liner has less armor, less bots/batts, less energy, and only 9 turrets.
Luxury Liner has 11 turrets, 9 of which fire forward, 220,000 armor, 700 bots/batts, 300,000 energy, CD, CM, and is extremely skinny, though long.
I've fought off a Phantom Bomber in my Luxury liner before, and destroyed a Kusari Destroyer in it. I'd say its quite capable. If you want a ship that can hold off a pirate, this is your best choice. Also if your doing work in dangerous, pirate-infested, privateer-infested places, its a good choice. But please, if your going to use it, be prepared to RP it. It should be OS&C tagged/IDd, have a fitting name (check the OSC's new liner name thread), and should be used appropriately in-game.
How battle capable do you think the Luxury Liner is (11 turrets)..? - Walker - 09-17-2008
Luxury Liner.
220K Armorx4=840K
The ability to be fired on from the Bering Gate then dock at Manhattan by three law-enforcement?
Priceless.
How battle capable do you think the Luxury Liner is (11 turrets)..? - Jinx - 09-17-2008
@Dab: well, not identical - but similar enough to be dealt with together. - they share a similar shape, they have well above average armour, exceptional cargo capacity and weaponry. - and the only reason i haven t put the royal liner into one group with them is that the royal liner is much more factionized.
in the end, who cares if the prison liner has 180k armour and the lux liner 200k+ and a fancy ornamental work on its roof. - they are still used for a similar purpose - that is transport of living cargo. - admittedly, the lux liner transports people who pay for it - and the prison liner transports people.... who pay in another way. - but even the ID card says that prison liners are often decomissioned liners, heavily modified, so i don t see why they cannot be compared with. - so i wouldn t really comment it with a bold "WRONG".
either way, the question was answered as detailed as necessary, - no real need to get much more into detail as it would be way too much for such an insignificant decission that is to be made. - after all, its just about the obvious - stats and looks.
How battle capable do you think the Luxury Liner is (11 turrets)..? - jimmy Patterson - 09-17-2008
guerss im buying a lux liner shes gonna haul p[rimarrly cargo but when i get my runs sorted (and rep)jim will start running people in it btw how much is it
EDIT my roleplay is that of a military officer who runs 3 ships his fighter which can be in service or a personal craft ,his military command(cap) and his cargoship that he owns but dosent nessarrly pilot himself so i need something thats fairly battle worthy as 7 outta 10 times he wont surrender and pay he rather run or fight as pirates destroyed all he had so the last thing he wants to do is pay them so they can do it again ..so sugestions away
How battle capable do you think the Luxury Liner is (11 turrets)..? - ferongr - 09-17-2008
A whopping 114 million.
How battle capable do you think the Luxury Liner is (11 turrets)..? - stewcool - 09-17-2008
Oh dont forget to add they shoot hellishly slow.