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Junker Gunboat - me_b_kevin - 09-26-2008
i'm firmly against junker warships.
i would think junker ships would be a salvage ship first, and a combat ship last.
meaning yes they would be able to fight but that wouldn't be their main purpose....
think, backhoe with a machine gun straped on it.
Junker Gunboat - Gamazson - 09-26-2008
I tend to agree, a decent civilian made gunship would suit thier purposes just fine and not be the least bit OORP. If it hasnt been done already that would be the ideal place to start.
Junker Gunboat - Tenacity - 09-26-2008
You do know that the junker salvage frigate will most likely be a cruiser-class vessel right?
Junkers are having to expand out into the borderworlds to keep a profit nowdays, and most pirate groups do not respect our neutrality agreements. We've got constant threats to junker stations from all manner of groups, including but not limited to bounty hunters, nomads, the wild, hogosha, xenos, phantoms, major pirate factions, and lawful groups trying to convince everyone that we should be considered full blow criminals.
There's plenty of need for junker capships, but I do agree that we would not build pure warships. The salvage frigate is like a mobile smelting station. It has arms to collect salvage, internal mining equipment like a standard mining ship, and a large cargo hold for holding what it salvages - but it also needs the armor and weaponry to defend it's cargo.
Junker Gunboat - Xing - 09-26-2008
this ship doesnt have a very junker-feel like design at all...
I suggest you look a bit at CSV and other utility ships and base your gunboat on them.
Junker Gunboat - jshkornmiller - 09-26-2008
i actually like the design, minus the red paint, though that parts been said. I would like to fly that around.
Junker Gunboat - Gamazson - 09-26-2008
' Wrote:You do know that the junker salvage frigate will most likely be a cruiser-class vessel right?
Junkers are having to expand out into the borderworlds to keep a profit nowdays, and most pirate groups do not respect our neutrality agreements. We've got constant threats to junker stations from all manner of groups, including but not limited to bounty hunters, nomads, the wild, hogosha, xenos, phantoms, major pirate factions, and lawful groups trying to convince everyone that we should be considered full blow criminals.
There's plenty of need for junker capships, but I do agree that we would not build pure warships. The salvage frigate is like a mobile smelting station. It has arms to collect salvage, internal mining equipment like a standard mining ship, and a large cargo hold for holding what it salvages - but it also needs the armor and weaponry to defend it's cargo.
I won't do any specific arguments about a concept like that, just the pure warship thing like you said.
Junker Gunboat - Salvager - 09-26-2008
' Wrote:i would think junker ships would be a salvage ship first, and a combat ship last.
That is exactly what I had in mind when I designed it, hence the grabbing arm above the large cargobay door on the front, also why it only has 8 turret hardpoints (2 each side, 2 up, 2 down).
I will experiment with adding more grabbing arms. Maybe that'll get the 'Salvager' message across to more people.
Junker Gunboat - Culebra - 09-26-2008
Did Junkers in vanilla Freelancer need a gunboat. No.
Do Junkers in discovery need their own? Yes.
I would look at Jinx's salvage ship for ideas on what a Junker gunboat would look like. I should be an exploration salvage ship first but be able to defend itself.
I always liked the satelite dishes the kusari explorer and zoner dessi have. I see the ship as a home to a family of Junkers always in search of new scrap and other goodies.
Junker Gunboat - Salvager - 09-26-2008
![[Image: junkrgb01.jpg]](http://www.derelictstudios.net/site/killasmods/images/FLships/junkrgb01.jpg)
Am I getting closer to everyone's opinion of what a Junker Gunboat should be? Or should I just give up and go cry in a corner?
Junker Gunboat - me_b_kevin - 09-26-2008
' Wrote:Am I getting closer to everyone's opinion of what a Junker Gunboat should be? Or should I just give up and go cry in a corner?
i like it, very industrial looking