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RE: 4.88 Sirius Map - High Res. (1200x1080) - Outro - 02-27-2015

(02-27-2015, 03:29 AM)Luke. Wrote: This will need changing once the Omicron update is applied. Just saying.
Can anyone confirm that this is the current state of Sirius? I can't check for myself because I'm mostly sticking to Liberty. Thank you in advance.

(02-27-2015, 04:34 AM)Iris Wrote: It would be nice if the colors for Rheinland and the Border Worlds were more distinct, because with my slightly colorblind vision, it's really difficult to tell them apart for me. Similar with Kusari, Hispania and Gallia. Otherwise, this map is awesome.
Hmm, perhaps I will try some different color scheme but it's not easy if you want to keep certain color consistency with a bit respect to system RP/flag/nebula/tradition colors.

RE: 4.88 Sirius Map - High Res. (1200x1080) - Error - 02-27-2015

(02-27-2015, 12:01 PM)Outro Wrote: Can anyone confirm that this is the current state of Sirius? I can't check for myself because I'm mostly sticking to Liberty. Thank you in advance.
It isn't, that is the old v4.87.0.0 map; I haven't updated it yet as remaking the imagemap takes quite a bit of time, so that's currently on hold until the Omicron update comes along. The current official map of Sirius can be found here.

EDIT: If you just want to verify that the system connections are right, here's an up-to-date copy of FLC's generated Sirius map: FLC_v4.88_universeMap.png

RE: 4.88 Sirius Map - High Res. (1200x1080) - Goddess Astra - 02-27-2015

(02-27-2015, 12:01 PM)Outro Wrote: Hmm, perhaps I will try some different color scheme but it's not easy if you want to keep certain color consistency with a bit respect to system RP/flag/nebula/tradition colors.

If the colors were more vivid, it would help. They don't need to be different. They just need to stand out more.

RE: 4.88 Sirius Map - High Res. (1200x1080) - Teerin - 02-28-2015

Looks good; I like it. I'm going to be a bit picky, though ...

  1. A few systems are classified wrong; (check here to verify)
  2. Lewis is a Tau (use Border Worlds icon, not Bretonia)
  3. Tau-39 is a Tau (use Border Worlds icon, not Edge Worlds)
  4. Tau-37 is a Tau (use Border Worlds icon, not Gallia)
  5. Rishiri is a Tau (use Border Worlds icon, not Kusari)
  6. Okinawa is a Sigma (use Border Worlds icon, not Kusari)
  7. Saar is an Omega (use Border Worlds icon, not Rheinland)
  8. Kansas is quasilawful-House, for some reason (use Liberty icon, not Independent Worlds)
  9. Drake is not a Tau (use Nomad Worlds icon, not Border Worlds)
  10. Inverness is not a Tau (use Independent Worlds icon, not Border Worlds)

    These next ones aren't necessarily what I'm suggesting, but kind of make sense like this
  11. Fairly - not entirely - certain that Dusseldorf is lonely (use Independent Worlds icon, not Rheinland)
  12. Omega-55 is a Wilde place (use Nomad Worlds icon, not Edge Worlds)
  13. Omega-58 used to be what Drake is (use Nomad Worlds icon, not Edge Worlds)
  14. Omicron Mu is orderly because of the Order, not wild (use Edge Worlds icon, not Nomad Worlds)
  15. Omicron Rho was the BHG Core's private Omega; got moved (use Edge Worlds icon, not Nomad Worlds)
  16. Omicrons Zeta and Minor are arguably edgy (use Edge Worlds icon, not Nomad Worlds)


RE: 4.88 Sirius Map - High Res. (1200x1080) - Outro - 02-28-2015

(02-27-2015, 01:13 PM)Iris Wrote: If the colors were more vivid, it would help. They don't need to be different. They just need to stand out more.
I made the Rheinland-green a bit more vivid. Hope it helps.

(02-28-2015, 03:12 AM)Teerin Wrote: Looks good; I like it. I'm going to be a bit picky, though ...

  1. A few systems are classified wrong; (check here to verify)
  2. Lewis is a Tau (use Border Worlds icon, not Bretonia)
  3. Tau-39 is a Tau (use Border Worlds icon, not Edge Worlds)
  4. Tau-37 is a Tau (use Border Worlds icon, not Gallia)
  5. Rishiri is a Tau (use Border Worlds icon, not Kusari)
  6. Okinawa is a Sigma (use Border Worlds icon, not Kusari)
  7. Saar is an Omega (use Border Worlds icon, not Rheinland)
  8. Kansas is quasilawful-House, for some reason (use Liberty icon, not Independent Worlds)
  9. Drake is not a Tau (use Nomad Worlds icon, not Border Worlds)
  10. Inverness is not a Tau (use Independent Worlds icon, not Border Worlds)

    These next ones aren't necessarily what I'm suggesting, but kind of make sense like this
  11. Fairly - not entirely - certain that Dusseldorf is lonely (use Independent Worlds icon, not Rheinland)
  12. Omega-55 is a Wilde place (use Nomad Worlds icon, not Edge Worlds)
  13. Omega-58 used to be what Drake is (use Nomad Worlds icon, not Edge Worlds)
  14. Omicron Mu is orderly because of the Order, not wild (use Edge Worlds icon, not Nomad Worlds)
  15. Omicron Rho was the BHG Core's private Omega; got moved (use Edge Worlds icon, not Nomad Worlds)
  16. Omicrons Zeta and Minor are arguably edgy (use Edge Worlds icon, not Nomad Worlds)
Thank you very much. All fixed.

RE: 4.88 Sirius Map - High Res. (1200x1080) - SpaceTime - 02-28-2015

You did some good work there.

Nomad Worlds are systems which are primarily inhabited by the nomads. Subsequently the following systems have to be converted as Edge Worlds:
- Omicron-100 (Order Guard system)
- Omicron Delta
- Omicron Kappa

Finally you might also want to move Bastille/Connecticut in the lower left corner of the map. This is their actual location: http://i.imgur.com/el1xy2g.jpg

RE: 4.88 Sirius Map - High Res. (1200x1080) - Outro - 02-28-2015

(02-27-2015, 12:06 PM)Error Wrote: EDIT: If you just want to verify that the system connections are right, here's an up-to-date copy of FLC's generated Sirius map: FLC_v4.88_universeMap.png
Thank you. That map is slightly out of date regarding guard systems. It is also buggy, messing with JG/JH connections (Colorado – Ontario) or generating double-systems. Still it helped me to notice some deleted connections, i.e. Alaska – Illinois (check).

(02-28-2015, 04:42 AM)SpaceTime Wrote: You did some good work there.

Nomad Worlds are systems which are primarily inhabited by the nomads. Subsequently the following systems have to be converted as Edge Worlds:
- Omicron-100 (Order Guard system)
- Omicron Delta
- Omicron Kappa

Finally you might also want to move Bastille/Connecticut in the lower left corner of the map. This is their actual location: http://i.imgur.com/el1xy2g.jpg
Thanks, fixed. Except Bastille/Connecticut. These are the worlds that exist beyond our reality, in 4th dimenion (time is not a dimension, deal with it). Connecticut is heaven for everyone and Bastille is hell. It does not matter where you put them.

Summed up, following connections were fixed:

Ontario – Alberta (changed to JG)
Texas – Minnesota (changed to JG)
Alaska – Illinois (removed)
Tau 44 – Tau 65 (removed)
Chugoku – Hokkaido (added)

PS: R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy

RE: 4.88 Sirius Map - High Res. (1200x1080) - Error - 02-28-2015

(02-28-2015, 12:02 PM)Outro Wrote: Thank you. That map is slightly out of date regarding guard systems. It is also buggy, messing with JG/JH connections (Colorado – Ontario) or generating double-systems. Still it helped me to notice some deleted connections, i.e. Alaska – Illinois (check).
Ah, thanks! Wasn't aware that FLC had any errors in the way it generated the Sirius map, but that does indeed appear to be the case. I was planning on using that as the reference material for a map of Sirius too at some point, and I'm already using it to identify system connections for that navmap page; I guess I better reconsider that, then. Tongue

PS: I guess what's "confusing" FLC about the guard/double systems is that we've got a few "removed"/empty systems that still have one-way jumpholes out of them. Do you have any specific examples? It'd be nice to find out what's tripping it up, as it's one of few tools out there that generates a map of Sirius with system names and connection types on it that I know of.

PS2: What's wrong with the Colorado/Ontario connection? There's still (just) a JH connection between the two in v4.88.0.0 as far as I can see, unless there's something that I'm missing here.

RE: 4.88 Sirius Map - High Res. (1200x1080) - Outro - 02-28-2015

(02-28-2015, 12:16 PM)Error Wrote: PS: I guess what's "confusing" FLC about the guard/double systems is that we've got a few "removed"/empty systems that still have one-way jumpholes out of them. Do you have any specific examples? It'd be nice to find out what's tripping it up, as it's one of few tools out there that generates a map of Sirius with system names and connection types on it that I know of.

I found two double-systems in the FLC Map, Omicron Major and Omicron 92:

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The map also contains systems that were culled and are no longer ingame: Touraine, Omicron 82, Omicron 93, Omicron 96, Omega 50, Salisbury, Faroe, Tau 42, Tau 63, Fukuoka, Yukon, Quebec. Even though these systems were removed, their navmaps (with outdated jump holes) still exist. See, f.e. navmap for Omicron 82 which contains jump hole to Omicron 80 and Omicron Alpha. But when you check Omicron 80 and Omicron Alpha, none of them contain Omicron 82 jump hole. This is exactly what "confuses" FLC and generates false systems, just like you suggested.

(02-28-2015, 12:16 PM)Error Wrote: PS2: What's wrong with the Colorado/Ontario connection? There's still (just) a JH connection between the two in v4.88.0.0 as far as I can see, unless there's something that I'm missing here.

You are right, that was a mistake. Tired eyes, probably.

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All and all, it looks like my map is currently the only one up-to-date — statement based on the comparison of the official 4.88 map and individual (up-to-date) DGC navmaps.

RE: 4.88 Sirius Map - High Res. (1200x1080) - Alestone - 02-28-2015

I am confused, I thought that

Quote: italic systems in addition to the bold systems are considered house space for quasi-lawful piracy ID rules

means that they are NOT actually House space, but that IDs with a ZoI piracy component are affected? Would that not make all italic listed systems Independents as far as server rules go?