(10-06-2016, 11:54 AM)Chrono Wrote: Thats one of the things I'm on about, yes. But I'm also concerned about their removing things from their sub-forum to make their thoughts about certain factions seem less... hostile.

(10-06-2016, 12:12 PM)Auzari Wrote:

(10-06-2016, 11:54 AM)Chrono Wrote: Thats one of the things I'm on about, yes. But I'm also concerned about their removing things from their sub-forum to make their thoughts about certain factions seem less... hostile.

what was removed


also no we don't have any core members in our faction, 95% certain (and no neither is k'hara, as amusing it is to hear it from people)

(10-06-2016, 12:04 PM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: Don't forget FR5'd by CR, LN, and I think LPI and 5th.

...I think that's a record.

Outcasts, Corsairs, Core, Order, BHG, CR, LN, LPI

but not LSF or order guard, so it's kinda silly to see them white

also do note that mean that literally every faction in the omicrons is red to us, excluding zoners. but same with Core, they're red to everything, even Zoners. quoting the comm thread, "making a deal with the devil" - diplomacy sheet needs adjusting, which i'll do after comms

it's the philosophy of the Core propaganda and brainwashing that is primarily hated, not the people itself. Nodtviet-esque elements are desired to be rooted out of the group. It's like saying I hate black people because I said I hate the BLM movement. (disclaimer; that's an example. )

(10-06-2016, 12:21 PM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote:

(10-06-2016, 12:12 PM)Auzari Wrote:

(10-06-2016, 11:54 AM)Chrono Wrote: Thats one of the things I'm on about, yes. But I'm also concerned about their removing things from their sub-forum to make their thoughts about certain factions seem less... hostile.

what was removed


also no we don't have any core members in our faction, 95% certain (and no neither is k'hara, as amusing it is to hear it from people)

(10-06-2016, 12:04 PM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: Don't forget FR5'd by CR, LN, and I think LPI and 5th.

...I think that's a record.

Outcasts, Corsairs, Core, Order, BHG, CR, LN, LPI

but not LSF or order guard, so it's kinda silly to see them white

also do note that mean that literally every faction in the omicrons is red to us, excluding zoners. but same with Core, they're red to everything, even Zoners. quoting the comm thread, "making a deal with the devil" - diplomacy sheet needs adjusting, which i'll do after comms

it's the philosophy of the Core propaganda and brainwashing that is primarily hated, not the people itself. Nodtviet-esque elements are desired to be rooted out of the group. It's like saying I hate black people because I said I hate the BLM movement. (disclaimer; that's an example. )

"The Alliance" was one such removal, plus a few things were removed from your infopage as well. I think you nuked a few threads, the subforum seems emptier than last time I visited.

(10-06-2016, 12:23 PM)Auzari Wrote:

(10-06-2016, 12:21 PM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote:

(10-06-2016, 12:12 PM)Auzari Wrote:

(10-06-2016, 11:54 AM)Chrono Wrote: Thats one of the things I'm on about, yes. But I'm also concerned about their removing things from their sub-forum to make their thoughts about certain factions seem less... hostile.

what was removed


also no we don't have any core members in our faction, 95% certain (and no neither is k'hara, as amusing it is to hear it from people)

(10-06-2016, 12:04 PM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: Don't forget FR5'd by CR, LN, and I think LPI and 5th.

...I think that's a record.

Outcasts, Corsairs, Core, Order, BHG, CR, LN, LPI

but not LSF or order guard, so it's kinda silly to see them white

also do note that mean that literally every faction in the omicrons is red to us, excluding zoners. but same with Core, they're red to everything, even Zoners. quoting the comm thread, "making a deal with the devil" - diplomacy sheet needs adjusting, which i'll do after comms

it's the philosophy of the Core propaganda and brainwashing that is primarily hated, not the people itself. Nodtviet-esque elements are desired to be rooted out of the group. It's like saying I hate black people because I said I hate the BLM movement. (disclaimer; that's an example. )

"The Alliance" was one such removal, plus a few things were removed from your infopage as well. I think you nuked a few threads, the subforum seems emptier than last time I visited.

The only things that were removed were the poems, which had zero use to the faction and it's development and said poems were more of a personal thing. We told the person in question to use his own account for it, as he was using the HC account for it.

They didn't want to use their own account, so it was never reposted.

(10-06-2016, 12:32 PM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: Out of another bit of curiosity,what happened to Erinyes' lovely diatribe towards the Order regarding the Donau incident? Wasn't in your infopage anymore.

(10-06-2016, 12:38 PM)Auzari Wrote:

(10-06-2016, 12:32 PM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: Out of another bit of curiosity,what happened to Erinyes' lovely diatribe towards the Order regarding the Donau incident? Wasn't in your infopage anymore.

The only parts that were culled out were references to the Alliance. Which was very 'eh' and not useful in any way. It made it seemed like we were the Alliance.


I can try to look at a backup of the page, I didn't do the revise. I don't quite recall the Donau mention.

(10-06-2016, 12:40 PM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote:

(10-06-2016, 12:38 PM)Auzari Wrote:

(10-06-2016, 12:32 PM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: Out of another bit of curiosity,what happened to Erinyes' lovely diatribe towards the Order regarding the Donau incident? Wasn't in your infopage anymore.

The only parts that were culled out were references to the Alliance. Which was very 'eh' and not useful in any way. It made it seemed like we were the Alliance.


I can try to look at a backup of the page, I didn't do the revise. I don't quite recall the Donau mention.

Something about "Why didn't the Order tip off the LSF or call one of their billion pirate allies to drop the Donau before it reached Manhattan, instead of nuking it there and shouting." Then some other stuff. Can't remember, the infopage just seemed weird without this giant diatribe.

It was this right? I found it on Google Cache, no idea why it's removed. I added it back in anyway, might have been an oversight since the section it was under was also deleted on the cache page

stuff

Nesrin Khan: “The Order? Don’t make me lecture you about the Order. I’ll tell you what the Order are; they’re the best allies the Nomad mindshare could ever possibly have. Why? I’ll tell you. They’re the people best suited to actually countering the K’haran threat and they’ve succeeded in making themselves the boogyman in nearly every house in the sector. Intelligence services won’t collaborate with them to keep the nomads out, and Navy officers blow the Order away, because the Order seem to view themselves entitled enough to behave like mindless vigilantes in any area of space they operate in. Case in point, the Schultzky assassination. When the Order destroyed the Donau, they didn’t quietly off the LSF that a certain somebody should have a few discreet blood tests or full body scans before being locked in the same meeting room as the President of Liberty, did they? They didn’t ask any of their bazillion pirate comrades to have a pop at the Donau somewhere along a trade lane. No, they decided to send a bunch of piss poor pilots out to die on a suicide mission right in the middle of the Manhattan defense grid, screaming at everyone not to interfere as they fired nuclear class ordinance in low orbit of an inhabited planet. The Order have had so many goddamn opportunities to heal their rift with the people of Sirius and actually establish a rational defense against the Nomad threat, but instead they’re content to knife people occasionally from the shadows. I don’t care what you’re cause is, how noble you think you are, or even if you’re trying to goddamn save the universe. The right goals, coupled with the wrong methods, are nothing more than evil. The same applies to the Mollys, the Xenos, the Lane Hackers, the Red Hessians; just causes, yeah, but supported on pillars of bone. Just think about this - spymaster extraordinaire Orillean didn’t save Sirius, dumb nobody Trent did. In Auxesia, we don’t even have a death penalty, even for treason, and only engage hostiles if the rules of engagement permit. Think about that the next time you go running to the Order or any other terrorists for help.”

Also concerning the Core stuff, they may see it as an opportunity to either backstab, or to abuse situations out of. Like gathering intel that certain ships exist.

(10-06-2016, 12:51 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Uhm, isn't the shared data and removal of Kebok in Lost basically the initiation of the ceasefire? They are right now at it to change the reputation with Core again. So what's the problem there?

Of course, Core are gonna still shake fists at us for stomping on their breeding grounds, (Omicron Delta, Minor, etc) - but we're primarily going to be keeping down on low profile out of detection, as the message dumps note in our section and with the comm to the AI.

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=133300&pid=1826101#pid1826101

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=143909

Can't afford to have an open-open conflict. Maybe a few Core vessels can go mysteriously missing in the background to profit from bounties - but not in the open. It's not quite the objective there. They're nothing more than background noise in the Omicrons.