(01-11-2018, 11:18 PM)Durandal Wrote: The reason it went nowhere is because you've got a veritable ass load of content here that you're unwilling to texture, hardpoint, or hitbox. Models are certainly nice, but you can't expect to dump that kind of a workload on anybody in the FL community because you don't feel like it. To say you did the "time consuming part of creating the models" is frankly an insult to people such as @Swallow, @eigos, and myself who undertake the miserable task of doing the dirty work that nobody else wants to touch. The actual creative process is much easier because it is fun to do. The rest is the work, and to say it any other way is a blatant lie.

I actually enjoy texturing, but why should I be asked to texture somebody else's stuff?
Hardpointing? Hitboxing? Setting up ini entries for new base components? Nobody enjoys that stuff. There's no enjoyment to take from it, except for finally seeing the finished product in game. And that's a hell of a lot less enjoyable when it isn't even your work.

Overall, I strongly doubt you'll ever see these used unless you take the time to finish them yourself, or until a new engine comes out (along with a better system/tools for linking equipment and handling collision detection) to use them on.

(01-12-2018, 02:25 AM)PRJKTLRD Wrote:

(01-11-2018, 11:18 PM)Durandal Wrote: The reason it went nowhere is because you've got a veritable ass load of content here that you're unwilling to texture, hardpoint, or hitbox. Models are certainly nice, but you can't expect to dump that kind of a workload on anybody in the FL community because you don't feel like it. To say you did the "time consuming part of creating the models" is frankly an insult to people such as @Swallow, @eigos, and myself who undertake the miserable task of doing the dirty work that nobody else wants to touch. The actual creative process is much easier because it is fun to do. The rest is the work, and to say it any other way is a blatant lie.

I actually enjoy texturing, but why should I be asked to texture somebody else's stuff?
Hardpointing? Hitboxing? Setting up ini entries for new base components? Nobody enjoys that stuff. There's no enjoyment to take from it, except for finally seeing the finished product in game. And that's a hell of a lot less enjoyable when it isn't even your work.

Overall, I strongly doubt you'll ever see these used unless you take the time to finish them yourself, or until a new engine comes out (along with a better system/tools for linking equipment and handling collision detection) to use them on.

Don't be harsh on him dude. Think this way, there are already some good ideas, and I'm not tech guy but as Synk said, maybe you could work together on it as a team, and for the good of this mod. Everything can be done if you have willing people I guess.

I recall seeing these when I met him very very very long time ago, maybe 2014. Good stuff.

(01-12-2018, 03:13 AM)Vendetta Wrote:

(01-12-2018, 02:25 AM)PRJKTLRD Wrote:

(01-11-2018, 11:18 PM)Durandal Wrote: The reason it went nowhere is because you've got a veritable ass load of content here that you're unwilling to texture, hardpoint, or hitbox. Models are certainly nice, but you can't expect to dump that kind of a workload on anybody in the FL community because you don't feel like it. To say you did the "time consuming part of creating the models" is frankly an insult to people such as @Swallow, @eigos, and myself who undertake the miserable task of doing the dirty work that nobody else wants to touch. The actual creative process is much easier because it is fun to do. The rest is the work, and to say it any other way is a blatant lie.

I actually enjoy texturing, but why should I be asked to texture somebody else's stuff?
Hardpointing? Hitboxing? Setting up ini entries for new base components? Nobody enjoys that stuff. There's no enjoyment to take from it, except for finally seeing the finished product in game. And that's a hell of a lot less enjoyable when it isn't even your work.

Overall, I strongly doubt you'll ever see these used unless you take the time to finish them yourself, or until a new engine comes out (along with a better system/tools for linking equipment and handling collision detection) to use them on.

Don't be harsh on him dude. Think this way, there are already some good ideas, and I'm not tech guy but as Synk said, maybe you could work together on it as a team, and for the good of this mod. Everything can be done if you have willing people I guess.

I recall seeing these when I met him very very very long time ago, maybe 2014. Good stuff.

There's already a backlog of work to be done, and the last thing the team needs is more unfinished projects to be left collecting dust while they tirelessly work through everything that has been waiting and holds a higher priority.

If you really want to see this stuff get serious consideration, it needs to be a finished product.