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RE: New Berlin Star Dying Found it! - Victor Steiner - 05-18-2018
The cost of moving millions of people and colonizing new planets isn't something any house can afford on such short notice. The very center of Rheinland would be obliterated, which means millions if not billions of credits would have to be spent on constructing new jump gates, exploring hostile systems and colonizing unsuitable worlds. Rheinland is in no position to undertake such a venture, no house is.
RE: New Berlin Star Dying Found it! - Banned player t202085 - 05-18-2018
(05-18-2018, 12:44 PM)Victor Steiner Wrote: The cost of moving millions of people and colonizing new planets isn't something any house can afford on such short notice. The very center of Rheinland would be obliterated, which means millions if not billions of credits would have to be spent on constructing new jump gates, exploring hostile systems and colonizing unsuitable worlds. Rheinland is in no position to undertake such a venture, no house is.
and that's a reason to not have an interesting story arc?
RE: New Berlin Star Dying Found it! - Thyrzul - 05-18-2018
(05-18-2018, 01:12 PM)Silverlight Wrote:(05-18-2018, 12:44 PM)Victor Steiner Wrote: The cost of moving millions of people and colonizing new planets isn't something any house can afford on such short notice. The very center of Rheinland would be obliterated, which means millions if not billions of credits would have to be spent on constructing new jump gates, exploring hostile systems and colonizing unsuitable worlds. Rheinland is in no position to undertake such a venture, no house is.
and that's a reason to not have an interesting story arc?
Yes.
RE: New Berlin Star Dying Found it! - Laura C. - 05-18-2018
(05-18-2018, 12:44 PM)Victor Steiner Wrote: The cost of moving millions of people and colonizing new planets isn't something any house can afford on such short notice. The very center of Rheinland would be obliterated, which means millions if not billions of credits would have to be spent on constructing new jump gates, exploring hostile systems and colonizing unsuitable worlds. Rheinland is in no position to undertake such a venture, no house is.Funnily enough, Rheinland is forced to do that with Nuremberg already. Sure, it´s not capital system and capital planet, but still relocation of tens of millions of people is required there.
(05-18-2018, 01:12 PM)Silverlight Wrote: and that's a reason to not have an interesting story arc?Interesting story arc would be fine. But story arc which basically duplicate story arc used repeatedly in the mod and even in the very same house already is not really interesting.
RE: New Berlin Star Dying Found it! - Banned player t202085 - 05-18-2018
(05-18-2018, 01:22 PM)Laura C. Wrote: Funnily enough, Rheinland is forced to do that with Nuremberg already. Sure, it´s not capital system and capital planet, but still relocation of tens of millions of people is required there.
Yeah but we aren't really seeing much actually happening with that, disco is in a time where player factions have no drive or intent to delve into the story they have been given, same thing for Kurlie
RE: New Berlin Star Dying Found it! - Victor Steiner - 05-18-2018
That's my point though Laura, in RL we would see millions of people moved to another planet which would seriously disrupt the day to day life there. Interesting story arc or no, it's not possible to get everyone out in time and maintain the economy. It would be the equivalent of Germany moving to Austria and then moving both to Hungary...its just not going to happen is it?
RE: New Berlin Star Dying Found it! - Laura C. - 05-18-2018
(05-18-2018, 02:17 PM)Silverlight Wrote:There is some roleplay, though it should be more of course. But that´s why I disagree that in case of New Berlin it would be "interesting" scenario. It is not interesting for majority of players in case of Nuremberg, so why it should be much different for the second time in the same house...(05-18-2018, 01:22 PM)Laura C. Wrote: Funnily enough, Rheinland is forced to do that with Nuremberg already. Sure, it´s not capital system and capital planet, but still relocation of tens of millions of people is required there.
Yeah but we aren't really seeing much actually happening with that, disco is in a time where player factions have no drive or intent to delve into the story they have been given, same thing for Kurlie
(05-18-2018, 02:54 PM)Victor Steiner Wrote: That's my point though Laura, in RL we would see millions of people moved to another planet which would seriously disrupt the day to day life there. Interesting story arc or no, it's not possible to get everyone out in time and maintain the economy. It would be the equivalent of Germany moving to Austria and then moving both to Hungary...its just not going to happen is it?
From realistic point of view, you are right. But we did not chose this to happen, that´s from storyline devs, so you must complain to them (well, it too late for it anyway). However, there is crucial difference between trying to relocate that much people, and succeeding in it. RheinGov roleplays only the former, that´s all we can do. Obviously no one can expect the latter, it is not realistic to save most of those people in short timeframe. So either the dark matter will not eat the planet in the end, or those people will simply die there. Life moves on...well, at least elsewhere
RE: New Berlin Star Dying Found it! - Thunderer - 05-18-2018
Give a reason for Rheinland to go full krieg mode on someone. And then unleash it.
RE: New Berlin Star Dying Found it! - Thexare - 05-19-2018
(05-18-2018, 12:16 PM)Laura C. Wrote: Considering Rheinland-Kusari war is on the way anyway, I don´t think this New Berlin "just another space problem" scenario can bring anything more.It can bring a reason, one that more people can support than just expansion for expansion's sake. Yes, you have the occasional "the Empire did nothing wrong" people, but for the most part people prefer the Rebel Alliance. So it also went with Gallia. But if Rheinland's expansion attempts have a sympathetic reason, there'll likely be more player support on their side.
RE: New Berlin Star Dying Found it! - Lythrilux - 05-20-2018
(05-18-2018, 04:20 PM)Thunderer Wrote: Give a reason for Rheinland to go full krieg mode on someone. And then unleash it.
The impending death of New Berlin could give them a perfect reason to charge at Liberty for some more lebensraum.