(04-07-2019, 09:45 PM)Miaou Wrote: The people putting on the event screwed up by changing how the event was to be done halfway through and restarting it after the original rules were followed. This isn't a "shame on the players for being pissed off". This is shame on the event team for not planning an event properly.

It doesn't even matter who won.

Look at any other sport, competitive video game, or general event. If the rules change half-way through and a restart is called after the event ends, everyone is pissed. Not because they lost, not because they won. Because the situation was voided, effort was voided, and everyone involved are told "you did it wrong". Stop trying to pin this on the "two teams" and understand it was the organizers who messed it up.

(04-07-2019, 09:46 PM)Spectre Wrote:

(04-07-2019, 09:42 PM)Rantari Wrote: I wasn’t actually there but to be honest the real issue people are having here is that there was reason for a redo at all. An event was planned without thinking about how to make it fair and enjoyable, I read the original event post and messaged Steiner saying this will be over in 10 minutes a fighter will get the pod and be gone with nothing anyone can do about it. And with the exception of my amazing time prediction that seems to have been the result the first time around.

Really rules and restrictions should have been laid out in the original event post so everyone knew exactly was was okay and what was not okay. I understand what you’re saying about people giving up but you can’t really expect the side that under the original rules won to be happy about a “oh wait we made a mistake let’s try again”.

No offence intended to anyone who helped organise but I think the planning is the issue here. Saying that the losing side would have always complained because that’s what happens every event and we all just expect it now.

This. This is why.
The event wasn't planned through the way it should've been, and the fact that the staff had to retcon the BAF's victory in favor of fixing something they should've caught beforehand is what caused the entire BAF side's morale to drop.

(04-07-2019, 09:50 PM)Xalrok Wrote: [4:41 PM] Xalrok: Either that, take a real long hard look and seriously re-assess if this community is worth the effort we put into these events.

(04-07-2019, 09:48 PM)Durandal Wrote: You wouldn't have done better, nobody trying to pin it on the development team would've. Nobody would've foreseen the issues encountered until they happened. People talk like they're hot ***** around here because it's cool to be better than whoever is in charge, and if you want to get some people together and form an event planning committee or other wonderful catch-all to proofread plans before implementation? You know what? I'm for it. I'd love nothing more than to be proven wrong.

(04-07-2019, 09:50 PM)Xalrok Wrote: 9:45 PM] Durandal: 4:35 PM] Xalrok: To be honest, I don't really want to do these events any more.
[4:35 PM] Xalrok: I'm sick of the endless tirades and flak we get.
[4:35 PM] Durandal: I'll run them all myself if you need me to.
[4:35 PM] Durandal: We're almost through anyway.
[4:35 PM] Durandal: No point pulling out now.
[4:35 PM] Xalrok: We won't re-run the event.
[4:36 PM] Xalrok: Move on to Gettysburg.
[4:36 PM] Xalrok: Gallia won this time.
[4:36 PM] Xalrok: You think we should.
[4:36 PM] Xalrok: I assume?
[4:39 PM] Durandal: Don't know what I think.
[4:39 PM] Durandal: Not making any decisions about it tonight.
[4:39 PM] Xalrok: Well personally, I don't want to prolong these events any longer than we need to.
[4:40 PM] Durandal: I don't really want to talk right now. I feel like *****. I'm sorry.
[4:40 PM] Durandal: I'm tired of feeling sick all the time.
[4:40 PM] Xalrok: If this is how it's going to end, with people telling us to ***** ourselves and all that, I think we should get them out of the way.
[4:41 PM] Xalrok: Either that, take a real long hard look and seriously re-assess if this community is worth the effort we put into these events.
[4:41 PM] Durandal: I almost want to append that.
[4:41 PM] Durandal: But I won't,
[4:41 PM] Durandal: Because this needs to be from me as a player.
[4:41 PM] Durandal: Not from me as a dev.
[4:42 PM] Xalrok: Because we bust our asses trying to patch stuff in for them, you stay up longer than 24 hours, I put time into it that I could otherwise put into other things.
[4:42 PM] Xalrok: And we get told to go ***** ourselves, we're *******, etc.

(04-07-2019, 09:53 PM)Thunderer Wrote: We need to reinstate badass NPCs, remove restarts, stop nursing them like flowers. We've spoiled them too much. More Dark Souls and less Barbie World.

(04-07-2019, 09:29 PM)Durandal Wrote: I'm disappointed because I witnessed both parties today allow their actions to be defined by a predetermined decision that everyone was out to get them, nothing mattered, and that it isn't even worth it to try.