"Cutlass" Bomber - Printable Version

"Cutlass" Bomber - Printable Version

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"Cutlass" Bomber - joshua - 05-29-2009

im sorry to say that this looks like...well, a sabre with a top part. nothing else to it. it looks like you took a sabre, took the bottom part of it, made some modifications to that, then stuck it on top. i dont really like it, but then again, i like different looking ships better.

"Cutlass" Bomber - tansytansey - 05-29-2009

' Wrote:im sorry to say that this looks like...well, a sabre with a top part. nothing else to it. it looks like you took a sabre, took the bottom part of it, made some modifications to that, then stuck it on top. i dont really like it, but then again, i like different looking ships better.

You obviously didn't read my post at all. Go read it again, more specifically, this part:

Quote:Others will be quick to say "It just looks like a Sabre with extra bits".
But that's just the point. The Border World series is a progression of ships, the Dagger is the base and the Stiletto and Sabre add more parts on to it.

"Cutlass" Bomber - Jinx - 05-29-2009

no new ships : .... untill the finish of 4.85

for further development there certainly will be more stuff. - but don t quote me on that. - lets say, there s just a general reluctance to add really "new" stuff before we really fixed everything else. - so if a new ship makes sense and is balanced and bugfree, thats another issue.

but most ships need balancing ( especially when they re entirely new ) and hitbox testing etc.

"Cutlass" Bomber - frozen - 05-29-2009

how will it half development? you can still continue making models for the next versions of discovery. I dunno about you, but i think i'd like to play the final release of 4.85 now, instead of delaying it with further additions. and thanks to cannons auto updater, its not like each release will be years away like 4.84 and 4.85 have been.

that being said, this is a really good model which follows DA's method of making ships rather well (building on one model by adding parts to it), and for once i -really- like what you've managed to do with the vanilla model by adding on parts.

eppy's model is indeed an outcast bomber, not a replacement model for any of the current models ingame, and thus it has the distinct maltese cross and similar shape to the outcast gunship. instead of changing the falcata (which incidentally alot of people like), you could try to exchange the waran model. however, if you think about exchanging the waran model, that means you need to beef up the model some way or the other as it comes across as a light bomber so far, since the waran is a heavy bomber (after all, its a flying goat's head with guns).

EDIT: and yes, jinx answered your question rather well.

"Cutlass" Bomber - gezza999 - 05-29-2009

' Wrote:You're not understanding what Gezza is saying.

He is saying that Eppy's model will not replace the Falcata. The Falcata is a Borderworlds bomber now. Eppy's bomber is an Outcast Bomber. He is replying to this in particular I presume:

Partially, also the first two sentences of the thread.

Quote:I felt much the same. The Outcasts can have the Falcata if they want, but I won't be flying it. This is how I envisioned the Border World bomber to be, an upscaled version of the Sabre that continues the trend from Dagger>Stiletto>Sabre.

Also; Jamez is correct, but this sentence may not be quoted out of context. D:<

Borderworlds - Personally, I envisioned it as being a Outcast built shipline, sold on to many people. The Hessians, Bundschuh, Zoners, Lane Hackers, as a part of their strategy to dominate them. They get them buying ships, there's some interaction, maybe increased trade soon down the line, etc. eventually leading to Cardamine, of course. I'm not saying it would succeed, but it'd bring money in for the Outcasts and it's better than doing nothing.

@ Nighthawk; if Epyon MUST replace the Falcata with his design or piss off, then yes... Replace the Waran with yours. Neither of them will get in until the next version from what I hear anyway.

@ Josh; by that logic you dislike the Borderworlds line in general... The Sabre is a Stiletto/Switchblade with bits added, which is the Dagger/Scimitar with bits added.

EDIT: Gah, two people post as I finish...

@ Frozen; it looks more like the sort of packaging you'd get if you ordered a whale off the internet? Ludicrously big box.

EDIT 2: That garbage about the Borderworlds line was added mainly to make me feel better, so I didn't think I'd just spammed a "/signed, it ar grate" sort of post, you can pretty much ignore it.

"Cutlass" Bomber - tansytansey - 05-29-2009

' Wrote:no new ships : .... untill the finish of 4.85

I see what you mean. I kinda figured that much as well. Even though I would hope it would get in sooner rather than later, I guessed that nothing after the initial BETA release would make it in.

"Cutlass" Bomber - frozen - 05-29-2009

like i said, that doesnt mean you cant finish the ship design, hitbox, texture job, hardpoint-job, and infocard and have it prepped for submission. thats what im doing for a variety of ships:P

"Cutlass" Bomber - joshua - 05-29-2009

' Wrote:You obviously didn't read my post at all. Go read it again, more specifically, this part:

i did read that part. but still, they look so alike you could take the top off, and its the sabre. a top doesn't make a bomber a bomber. it just adds more parts. plus, i dont really like the ships after the sabre anyway, too much additions, they should start a new series or something.

"Cutlass" Bomber - Jamez - 05-29-2009

' Wrote:i did read that part. but still, they look so alike you could take the top off, and its the sabre. a top doesn't make a bomber a bomber. it just adds more parts. plus, i dont really like the ships after the sabre anyway, too much additions, they should start a new series or something.

Just the same as if you take the bottom off a Stiletto, and it's a Dagger. Besides, Nighthawk's Falcata also has 2 more engine pods for some extra beef, looks-wise and propulsion-wise.

To all the Waran-haters, boo to thee! My only complaints is the wierd blue cockpit.

EDIT: *Slaps Ashes* I just said that!

"Cutlass" Bomber - tansytansey - 05-29-2009

' Wrote:Borderworlds - Personally, I envisioned it as being a Outcast built shipline, sold on to many people. The Hessians, Bundschuh, Zoners, Lane Hackers, as a part of their strategy to dominate them.

There is no connection of Border World ships to Outcasts, other than the fact that they fly them. With the Vanilla ships, the Dagger is exclusively sold on Buffalo, the Stiletto is sold exclusively by the Bundschuh on Bruchsal and the Sabre is sold on Malta and Vogtland, and the Dromedary is sold by Lane Hackers. One ship out of four and they don't even sell it exclusively. Not only that but Info Cards make no mention that the ships were developed at all by Outcasts.

' Wrote:like i said, that doesnt mean you cant finish the ship design, hitbox, texture job, hardpoint-job, and infocard and have it prepped for submission. thats what im doing for a variety of ships:P

Yes, it'll give me time to learn how to hit box and hard point ships myself instead of sending them away for someone else to do.

' Wrote:i did read that part. but still, they look so alike you could take the top off, and its the sabre. a top doesn't make a bomber a bomber. it just adds more parts. plus, i dont really like the ships after the sabre anyway, too much additions, they should start a new series or something.

The Stiletto is just a Dagger with a bottom part added to it. The Sabre is just a Stiletto with a couple minor changes. I was just following the natural progression of things. The logic of the game developers out weighs your logic, sorry.