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TO THE ZONERS: SHAMEFULL INCIDENT AT DELTA'S FREEPORT. - BLACKSTALKER JC - 10-11-2009

*looks at a report*

hmm........do you think its odd that nomads attacked the freeport almost right after this event happend........................could he be working with em


TO THE ZONERS: SHAMEFULL INCIDENT AT DELTA'S FREEPORT. - Jinx - 10-11-2009

from: Persephone
to: apocalypse wing

"due to diplomatic issues, i have removed this message.

E. Tate"


TO THE ZONERS: SHAMEFULL INCIDENT AT DELTA'S FREEPORT. - Saronsen - 10-11-2009

<<Incoming Transmission>>
<Source: Saronsen Nighten, Commander of the Jinkusu, Paradise>
<<Playing>>

-Saronsen appears on the screen, and sighs audibly-

I didn't even bother going through your message, and I don't care to.

I asked you nicely at ten klicks out to keep your distance from the Freeport. I didn't care that you were around. You said "I'm doing missions, OK?". That's fine and dandy, but let your buddy who was docked on the station with his gunship accept them for you so you can hunt something. Instead, you continue approaching with your BATTLESHIP to the Freeport. I again, ask you more sternly to keep your distance from the Freeport at five klicks. Since you refused to listen, I fired a warning shot at you when you were just outside of the blast radius of the Mortars, leaving the Freeport unscathed. Your ignorance is no reason for you to fly right up and moor your BATTLESHIP to the Freeport, just because you think you run the place.

Enjoy your permanent ban from any Freeports, you've just ruined any hospitality we used to give you.


TO THE ZONERS: SHAMEFULL INCIDENT AT DELTA'S FREEPORT. - Apocalypse_Now - 10-11-2009

' Wrote:<<Incoming Transmission>>
<Source: Saronsen Nighten, Commander of the Jinkusu, Paradise>
<<Playing>>

-Saronsen appears on the screen, and sighs audibly-

I didn't even bother going through your message, and I don't care to.

I asked you nicely at ten klicks out to keep your distance from the Freeport. I didn't care that you were around. You said "I'm doing missions, OK?". That's fine and dandy, but let your buddy who was docked on the station with his gunship accept them for you so you can hunt something. Instead, you continue approaching with your BATTLESHIP to the Freeport. I again, ask you more sternly to keep your distance from the Freeport at five klicks. Since you refused to listen, I fired a warning shot at you when you were just outside of the blast radius of the Mortars, leaving the Freeport unscathed. Your ignorance is no reason for you to fly right up and moor your BATTLESHIP to the Freeport, just because you think you run the place.

Enjoy your permanent ban from any Freeports, you've just ruined any hospitality we used to give you.


Liar. You've got 48 hours to apologize... You and your two-faced buddies... If 3 of you don't apologize, manhunt will begin... And it will end up for you like it was this time... In defeat. Kurtz out.



TO THE ZONERS: SHAMEFULL INCIDENT AT DELTA'S FREEPORT. - dead_shot - 10-11-2009

**Incoming transmission**
Comm ID: Mohammad-Sadqi Al Noori
Location: FP XV

I would like to ask both sides to restrain form further arguing until the case is presented to the Council of Zoners.
Delegate Sorensen, please do not make any haste decisions without CoZ's permission.
Col. Kurtz maybe an lunatic but I never saw him lying so far.

I'm looking forward to have this case discussed within the Council's chambers

May the peace be upon us all

Al Noori out

**End of message**
***Signal lost***


TO THE ZONERS: SHAMEFULL INCIDENT AT DELTA'S FREEPORT. - Dab - 10-11-2009

Incoming Transmission
Comm ID: Aurelia Silvan


Everyone involved, please be patient, I've been quite busy these past two days and have not yet had time to address this issue or the SHIZL situation, but I will be responding to both shortly.

Furthermore, I will also be providing an entire log of the situation that happened last night at Freeport 11, not just a few choice pictures, but the entire situation from the point I arrived until the Apocalypse left. These photos have not been edited.

Again, please be patient and I will provide a response soon.
-Aurelia Silvan
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TO THE ZONERS: SHAMEFULL INCIDENT AT DELTA'S FREEPORT. - Apocalypse_Now - 10-11-2009

' Wrote:Incoming Transmission
Comm ID: Aurelia Silvan


Everyone involved, please be patient, I've been quite busy these past two days and have not yet had time to address this issue or the SHIZL situation, but I will be responding to both shortly.

Furthermore, I will also be providing an entire log of the situation that happened last night at Freeport 11, not just a few choice pictures, but the entire situation from the point I arrived until the Apocalypse left. These photos have not been edited.

Again, please be patient and I will provide a response soon.
-Aurelia Silvan
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46 hours left.



TO THE ZONERS: SHAMEFULL INCIDENT AT DELTA'S FREEPORT. - Dab - 10-11-2009

Incoming Transmission
Comm ID: Aurelia Silvan

Below is a copy of a message I gave to the Council of Zoners regarding this incident. It should answer any questions people have over this incident, but if not feel free to tell me.

' Wrote:Incoming Transmission
Comm ID: Aurelia Silvan


First off, I have not given a blanket ban on the Apocalypses, and I have not permanently barred them from the use of our facilities; Yet. However, they were told to stop basing raids from Freeport 11. This decision was made around two and a half weeks ago. The transmission may be found here.

Now, on the specific situation last night; Apocalypse Now, a Mako-class Bounty Hunter Battleship appeared now Freeport 11. Both the Paradise and Captain Izii Helfari were on station. The Paradise demanded that the battleship not dock on the station for the captain, Saronsen Nighten, wanted to know what exactly the Apocalypse were doing at Freeport 11. As you should know, the Official Policies, specifically Section II, Clause 4, state that any Council Delegate has the right to end any gatherings inside of an NFZ with or without reason.

The problems began when the Apocalypse, in complete disregard to the Paradise, continued on its course and forcefully moored his ship to Freeport 11. As a result, the Paradise fired a warning shot, one and only one, at the Apocalypse Now. The shot did -not- penetrate the ship's shields. The Paradise ordered the Apocalypse to leave the 5K No-Fire Zone. Apocalypse moved to 4.9K and then bragged to the Paradise for refusing to follow his orders. It was at this point that I arrived. Captain Izii has documented evidence of the majority of the situation before I arrived, and both of us have documented evidence of everything that transpired afterwords.

I gave the Apocalypse the Official Policy's conditions regarding the No-Fire Zone and the Council of Zoner's Delegate's rights to ask anyone to leave the Zone at any time, and what the conditions were for actions taken afterwards.

Then I confronted Apocalypse about something he said to the Paradise prior to my arrival. The most disturbing part of this is that for one, Frank Zamboni is not a member of the Council of Zoners at all. Second, Elizabeth Tate, who goes by the nickname Jinx occasionally, does not have the authority to decide who may and may not use our equipment.. If anyone wishes to use more Zoner Equipment than our current policies, which may need updated, then they need the permission of the Council as a whole, not a single delegate who didn't even notify the Council at all. Furthermore, it seems Elizabeth Tate gave the Colonial Remnent full permission to conduct a major operation in Omicron Lost from Freeport 11. Now, we may have still allowed them to do that if they had asked this Council, but they didn't, they asked Ms. Tate. And instead of bringing the matter to the Council for deliberation, she simply gave them permission outright, which she did not have the authority to do.. I have spoken to Ms. Tate about these matters but it seems she is unwilling to cooperate and perform the duties and responsibilities that come with the perks of being a Council delegate.

I made Apocalypse aware of the fact that he must not use more than four pieces of Zoner equipment on a single ship, which is current policy, but simply got a "We'll see about that" as a response. As some of you may remember, I gave a message in this very channel asking if anyone had any objections to applying the current equipment policies towards the Apocalypse ships, and gave two full days for those who wished to to object. (Message ID#2161) I've received none so far, and this would be the third day, though I did receive encouragement by three delegates to move forward in doing so.

I also informed the Apocalypse ships that they can not base their raids from Freeport 11, nor station their fleets on Freeport 11, but got much the same response. That is, when he wasn't still ranting against and insulting the Captain of the Paradise, Saronsen Nighten. I must commend Captain Nighten for keeping his anger at being falsely accused and routinely insulted and taunted by the Apocalypse ships in check. I know many pilots who would have tolerated much less before taking action, but Captain Nighten restrained himself. I for one can not see why people believe what the Apocalypse say about Saronsen, while completely disregarding the chance that the blame was on the Apocalypse ships and not the Paradise. Saronsen may be young and inexperienced, but he does not start conflicts. Izii Helfari can testify to this, and I think Captain Nighten performed admirably.

I then spent considerably more time attempting to reason with Apocalypse and get them to understand what I was trying to tell them, but they were not receptive to it.

After over an hour of attempted discussion, I politely asked the Apocalypse to leave the area. This was in light that Apocalypse had violated the No-Fire Zone and were continuing to do so. By insulting, taunting, and threatening the Zoners, mainly the Paradise, they were in violation of the No-Fire Zone, as stated by the Official Policies, specifically Section II, Clause 2.

So by the right of the Official Policies, specifically Section II, Clause 5, we warned the Apocalypse vessels to leave the area, and gave them sixty seconds to begin moving. When we gave that warning, we got these responses; [1], [2], [3].

Given no other choice, the Paradise and Captain Izii, as well as a friendly Order Bomber who was present to see what was happening, engaged the Apocalypse vessels. Somehow, the Apocalypse ships were using prototype engines or some other equipment, for their battleship was moving at speeds up to 400ms. (They were cruising and ramming Saron with the BS and using it to propel the Apoc_Now at 400ms while still shooting.. Report was filed..) The Paradise was forced to retreat, and Captain Izii's fighter was taken out as the Apocalypse's Spatial, Apollo blew up. Once that happened, the Apocalypse now also fired on my unarmoured transport several times, despite the fact that I hadn't, and couldn't have gotten involved.

After that happened, the Apocalypse again forcefully docked Freeport 11 and stole several hundred units of hull and shield repair items before finally leaving and going to Kappa. Considering they left after the fight, it is my belief that they were looking for a fight to happen, Else they would have just left in the first place.

The Security Council did not make any of these decisions, especially in light of the fact that the Security Council does not yet exist. Considering this is a new plan I've presented, I'm giving the Council ample time to discuss it before I go through any steps towards actually creating it. The steps taken were decisions I made completely on my own, based solely on the Apocalypse's actions and what our policies, which were voted on and authorized by this Council, told me I was allowed to do.

The reasons I decided on this were many. For one, an announcement made by former-Chairman Doc Holiday towards the Apocalypse stated that they were not allowed to station their vessels on any Zoner stations. The second reason is that the Apocalypse have a habit of violating our No-Fire Zone, most of the time through taunts, threats, and insults towards others, but occasionally through violence, such as when this happened; The Apocalypse Now opening fire on the Order Carrier Megalith. Note: The Megalith was granted an Aquilon Carrier by this Council several weeks ago.
The third was that the Apocalypse ships were using a total of fourteen Zoner Battleship Cannons on their Makos, and fully loading their smaller ships with our equipment as well, including cruiser and gunboat weaponry. This is against the standard Zoner policy of four pieces of Zoner equipment maximum per non-Zoner vessel. This is a policy the Order, Bounty Hunters Guild Core, Corsairs, and everyone else abides by, and I see no reason for the Apocalypse vessels to be granted an exception when they have several alternative options to choose from. Again, I brought this matter up to this Council several days ago. (Message ID#2161)
The fourth was the repeated insults, threats, and taunts towards the Paradise, Captain Izii, myself, and the Council of Zoners in general by the Apocalypse Now. These actions were a violation of the No-Fire Zone policies described in the Official Policies, specifically Section II, Clause 2.

Rest assured, the Apocalypse ships will not be deemed hostile to Zoners unless either the Council decides that or the Apocalypse stick to their word and begin a 'manhunt' in two days time. Furthermore, we will not stop the Apocalypse from docking on our stations to resupply, but we will also not allow them to station fleets from our stations, as that is a direct violation of what they were told by former-chairman Holiday, and I see no reason to repeal the decision that was made. Besides, I don't have the authority to do so, the Council must vote if it wishes to repeal a former policy.

I hope this clears up many of the questions that the other Zoners have over the events that transpired last night.
-Aurelia Silvan
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-Aurelia Silvan
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TO THE ZONERS: SHAMEFULL INCIDENT AT DELTA'S FREEPORT. - DAnvilFan - 10-11-2009

.::Incoming Transmission::.
Message to : Whom It May Concern
Comm ID: Shipmaster, (]c[)
Location: Freeport 15, Omicron 74


I believe what Ms.Tate was refering to was this chart:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p35...0upJbuLWZO7oTLg


TO THE ZONERS: SHAMEFULL INCIDENT AT DELTA'S FREEPORT. - Dab - 10-11-2009

Incoming Transmission
Comm ID: Aurelia Silvan


That chart may describe the legality among the A.D.M.I.N.S. corporation towards their usage of Zoner equipment, but that chart does not describe the Zoner's stance towards it. We have policies set in place about usage of our equipment. And I was in a private conversation with Ms. Tate, and from that conversation I can tell you, that isn't what she was referring to. If you wish, I can provide a written log of this conversation to you.
-Aurelia Silvan
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