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Escorts and escorting - Montezuma/Kukulcan - 11-11-2009
Escorts are for the weak, real men use 5 shire convoys of d00m to guarantee invincibility:P
Srsly though, please dont get rid of/nerf the mining mod, it is really rather epic as it is. Perhaps just make more lucritive mining spots that arent in the hellhole known as Liberty, and whatever you do, please please dont touch Dublin!
Escorts and escorting - bluntpencil2001 - 11-11-2009
Yeah, fully agree.
Markam and I have test-run a system very similar to this, splitting profits in half.
Both of us mine in our mining ships, and fill one 5k transport between us, which one of us pilots. The other switches to an escort, and uses these tactics.
So far so good for BMM.
I'm actually enjoying trading and mining. I think I must have brain damage.
Escorts and escorting - Agmen of Eladesor - 11-11-2009
Escort service is something that the BHG| can provide to pilots - for a fee, of course.
Actually, back in the old S/D days and even since then, that's something we train on. Used to be, all a new pilot could DO was fly escorts for a while so they learned how to do it right.
The biggest issue that we have now is that people have in their heads that their mission is to get that blue message. That's NOT the mission of an escort pilot. The mission of the escort pilot is to see his cargo get through safely - period. Thus, the mission of the ship being escorted is, when jumped by pirates, to RUN!
Then the escorting pilot shoots at or otherwise engages the pirates long enough for the tranport to get safely away - and then HE runs away. It's NOT your job to sit there and kill the pirate. It's your job to help get the cargo through safely - and you can't do that if you're dead.
It certainly doesn't hurt to have a gunboat or gunship as an escort, especially if you're flying a high credit mission. Seriously - if you have two A-trains full of ore, at a minimum, I'd get at least 1 fighter, 1 bomber, and a gunboat JUST for security. Then you get jumped by a pirate transport - he's in a world of hurt. And more importantly, everyone can have fun.
Escorts and escorting - CzeReptile - 11-11-2009
Honestly, I havent seen BHG really hunting for contracts or offering services. But thats just me. We have mined in T23 and mined already about total of maybe 2 billion credits already. No escort at all. No one pirates our route, and group of 2-3 atlas ships can be pretty deadly to single pirate. And if we need, we get a gunboat to run with us. Thats just how it works for us.
Honestly, mining became a ubermoneygrind as of late. Without much effort, we managed to make 200 mililions in matter of 2 days while still playing our other chars, and most importantly, unopposed. No one really trades now, everybody mines and rest is trying to steal the mined goods. Escorts are nice, but single fighter cant stop a bomber from destroying the cargo ship fast enough.
Escorts and escorting - mjolnir - 11-11-2009
' Wrote:The biggest issue that we have now is that people have in their heads that their mission is to get that blue message. That's NOT the mission of an escort pilot. The mission of the escort pilot is to see his cargo get through safely - period. Thus, the mission of the ship being escorted is, when jumped by pirates, to RUN!
Exactly.
Any escort will have hard time trying to defend a trading ship that stops and decides to fight attackers.
So when it comes to a fight:
Trader RUNS, if there are more they all run to same area and stick with the slowest cargo ship.
Escorts and escorting - Agmen of Eladesor - 11-11-2009
' Wrote:Escorts are for the weak, real men use 5 shire convoys of d00m to guarantee invincibility:P
Yeah - that ought to be enough to put fear in the heart of basically ANY pirate that could get in their way. Actually, 5 Shires would be a serious threat to any BATTLESHIP that got in their way. There's a lot of firepower in 60 turrets.
Escorts and escorting - darthbeck - 11-11-2009
' Wrote:Exactly.
Any escort will have hard time trying to defend a trading ship that stops and decides to fight attackers.
So when it comes to a fight:
Trader RUNS, if there are more they all run to same area and stick with the slowest cargo ship.
I'd say have all the traders break in diffrent directions, and then the pirate is forced to pick one, and the escort trys to defend that transport.
Escorts and escorting - Boss - 11-11-2009
' Wrote:You're going to ruin my pirate profits.
' Wrote:Yeah I know. I was thinking when I wrote this that if people actually followed it I would be screwed.
Fortunately my Barghest of Doom knows neither fear nor the fact that it can't kill fighters.
Escorts and escorting - jxie93 - 11-11-2009
' Wrote:1) Escorts travel ahead of convoys to find trouble before the transports do.
2) Mining Op escorts fly patrol patterns between likely vectors of approach by pirate parties.
3) Group cohesion, communication and strategy should be discussed before heading out
4) A group of individuals will fail. Fight together. If things go to pot it'll be the difference between losing 50% of your collective worth and 100% of your collective worth.
5) PAY YOUR ESCORTS WELL YOU CHEAP BUMS. PAAAAY THEEEEEEM.
This is pin worthy. Execellent guide.