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Discovery Discussion of Security. - Naturalist Fouche - 11-13-2009
Sorry guys this is a nooby question but... is there a thread that we can chack out that will update us on when the server will be back/and what will be happening.... you know to like fill us in... i cant seem to find a thread... and also if you could show me if there is a thread that talks about the future update changes... Thanks
Discovery Discussion of Security. - Caelum - 11-13-2009
Updates will get posted here, probably. Latest topic being this
Atleast, that's the logical place to post & where it's been posted so far:P
Discovery Discussion of Security. - Alex. - 11-13-2009
*facepalm*
Topic split please mods?:)
Discovery Discussion of Security. - obnoxious1 - 11-13-2009
Seen a program somewhere.. not sure if it would work on Discovery, but might be worth having one of the Server guru's for Disco check it out..
E.G. Server Protector
Edit...
Just found another one.. again Server Admin would have to see if it's worth anything...
FortGuard DDoS Monitor
FortGuard Anti DDoS
Discovery Discussion of Security. - Agmen of Eladesor - 11-13-2009
There's no need to split things - we will post when it's fixed. In the meantime, if someone can come up with a thought on how to shove 200 lanes of traffic down a 2 lane highway without there being issues, we'd be happy to hear it.
As Fletch said, a Denial of Service attack is hard as hell to defend against. Even BIG companies, like Microsoft, and lovely places like the Pentagon, can still (and do) get hit with DoS attacks.
Discovery Discussion of Security. - TheMillers - 11-13-2009
' Wrote:Seen a program somewhere.. not sure if it would work on Discovery, but might be worth having one of the Server guru's for Disco check it out..None of those would be helpfull in the case of Discovery RP 24/7.
E.G. Server Protector
Edit...
Just found another one.. again Server Admin would have to see if it's worth anything...
FortGuard DDoS Monitor
FortGuard Anti DDoS
Again, it is the transport mechanism that is under attack, not the physical server.
It doesn't help a thing for the users of Discovery RP 24/7 that the traffic generated by the attack gets blocked at the router which the server is connected to. The traffic needs to be blocked upstream - I.E. at the routers that leads to the router which the server is attached to.
To use the same analogy of roads : You drive on the E55 highway intending to reach Prague. Other cars enters the E55 highway through the various onramps, also intending to reach Prague. Suddenly from 10 different onramps along the E55 highway thousands of cars also enter the highway.
When they arrive at the border of the Czech republic there will be a queue, since the highway only can handle 100 cars pr minute, and there are thousands arriving at the same time.
Diverting the cars without real reason to visit Prague at the Czech border only means that traffic within the Czech republic will flow fine. But all the traffic getting to the entry point at the border will still be congested.
So you need to identify the on-ramps along the E55 highway where the thousands of cars without a real reason to go to Prague enters, and then divert those cars at the on-ramp.
In this case, the border station is the router which the server is connected to, the E55 is the route that data to this specific router (read: IP address) must take, and the on-ramps are the various routers that are used to send data along the way.
The mentioned programs are used to protect your lan segment from being swamped, i.e. from the border station analogy wise, since the only router you really can control and configure to drop the bad datastream, is the one the server is attached to. All the upstream routers are not under your control.
Discovery Discussion of Security. - Redeemer - 11-15-2009
Hm...
Be nicer to each other?
Discovery Discussion of Security. - Corsair - 11-15-2009
Good DDOS protection can costs tens of thousands of dollars, unfortunately, due to the resources invested in investigation.
Discovery Discussion of Security. - masternerdguy - 11-15-2009
we need to find out who it is and press charges otherwise hes just gonna retarget the server in some way once it comes back online.
Discovery Discussion of Security. - mwerte - 11-15-2009
' Wrote:Third party... Can we trust it?I use no-ip for some remote desktop stuff (stupid dynamic IPs). But they won't help in this case.