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GRRRRRRRR That annoys me! - Zelot - 09-11-2007
This place isn't some holy ground, otherwise we wouldn't see daily logs in sanction thread.
Thats my point exactly, there IS alot of admin activity, so we know they do thier job when rules are broken, my feelings are, if someone trys to break the rules, warn them to make sure they know, then if they countinue, report them to the admin and let them take care of it, It's not like they Havent been taking care of rule breakers.
GRRRRRRRR That annoys me! - Zelot - 09-11-2007
They worst thing in my opinion, is how a player will chase you after you've dis-engaged from battle and started to retreat, they other player will follow you quoting the rules about dis-engagment, yet still chasing you firingng CD's. That seems like good RP. I bet if they did stop youy they'd complain to an admin that you re-engaged. and If your going to quote the rules, get them right, I heard someone the other day tell a player that he was going to report the player to the admins for crusing away fr4om battle, and If they stopped now he would not report him. just for the record, IT'S NOT AGAINST THE RULES TO LEAVE A BATTLE, ONLY TO RE-ENGAGE. I think part of the problem is experianced players try to use quoting the rules to make noobs feel like they HAVEn to cede to the player wishes, it's used for trickery too much.
GRRRRRRRR That annoys me! - Wingnut - 09-11-2007
I agree that someone quoting the rules is annoying....especially since it breaks RP.
However, my intent on replying to this forum is to ask a question.
I've looked in detail at the general PVP rules and I have not found a rule stating it is illegal to cruise away from a fight.
The rule I found in the general section is:
6.6 Using cruise and quick engine kill to boost speed in PvP fights is not allowed.
The way I understand this rule is that you cannot use cruise in combination with quick engine kill to gain an advantage in the fight.
Sometimes I have been caught up in a one-on-one after coming through a jump hole or jump gate and been clearly outmatched (fighter vs destroyer), and I ran. I used jump holes and asteroid fields to slow and possibly loose my pursuer. This is actually fun, to see if you can get away, especially when being tracked by more than one ship.
In these situations I did not re-engage the pursuer unless they managed to catch me. My whole intent was to escape death.
In the couple cases I have done this the pursuers did not spout the rules, but did comment that the chase was fun.
So, if there is a rule that says you must stay and fight to the death and not run could someone provide a link or the location of the rule? I don't want to violate them if they exist.
GRRRRRRRR That annoys me! - DBoy1612 - 09-11-2007
Wingnut Wrote:The way I understand this rule is that you cannot use cruise in combination with quick engine kill to gain an advantage in the fight.
I think Zelot made it clear...
' Wrote:IT'S NOT AGAINST THE RULES TO LEAVE A BATTLE, ONLY TO RE-ENGAGE.
If you want to run and leave a battle, fine, do it. If you get chased when running, thats fine too. If you dock, you (the PLAYER) are officially dead and will not be launching in that character anytime soon. BUT! When you go in to Cruise to wait for your shields to re charge and then come back to the fight, that goes against the re engagement rule.
And I agree, quoting rules in system chat isn't looking to good anymore. If you REALLY need to quote a rule, take it to private chat with OOC symbols to make it look better and to keep system chat within RP.
GRRRRRRRR That annoys me! - RonG777 - 09-11-2007
Edit*
Dboy beat me to the punch.. Thanks for helping :)
GRRRRRRRR That annoys me! - Zelot - 09-11-2007
no ron your right, they can try to take you out of cruse. But it seems silly and out of RP to tell someone they are dead when they cruise while trying to get them out of cruise. If your running, your probly followoing the rules, and they should try to take you out of cruise but if someone is clearly retreating, I dont think you need to tell them the rules.
GRRRRRRRR That annoys me! - Wingnut - 09-11-2007
Thanks DBoy....looks like Zelot and I posted at the same time so I didn't catch his last.
GRRRRRRRR That annoys me! - caylith - 09-11-2007
Quote:I think part of the problem is experianced players try to use quoting the rules to make noobs feel like they HAVEn to cede to the player wishes, it's used for trickery too much.
If I find that anyone, anyone, is quoting the rules to trick new players they'll have to answer to me and the other admins. In fact, players just need to stop quoting the rules altogether unless it's a serious breach. If you feel you must talk to them, go to private comms and tell them, not in a condescending way or anything, that they've just broken a rule and thought they should know.
But then again, those who are doing this are starting to act like server police. I know that's something we will never, ever, never have on this server. It needs to stop since it's undermining the spirit of RP on this fine server. Hell, even in my own RP chars I don't quote server rules. If someone has done something so outrageous, I go to them privately or I wait until I get into my ADMIN char for that.
Stay in RP....Because excessive OOC chat is also a violation, even if you are quoting the rules.
GRRRRRRRR That annoys me! - Stoat - 09-11-2007
DBoy - "If you dock, you (the PLAYER) are officially dead and will not be launching in that character anytime soon."
How does that work? If you leg it from a fight and get away, whether that be docking with a base or planet or just leaving the system, you've escaped to fight another day, surely (Obviously you shouldn't be docking with a hostile base or planet, but that would be a sanctionable action). Ok, don't get involved with the people that just kicked your butt too soon, but that's only because it'll happen again.
It's if you get killed, that's when it'd be bad form :rtfm: to fly in the character again too soon.
Or have I got the spirit wrong? :unsure:
Either way, being bashed over the head with the rules, when you are following them, is extremely annoying. We're here for the RP
GRRRRRRRR That annoys me! - DBoy1612 - 09-11-2007
' Wrote:How does that work? If you leg it from a fight and get away, whether that be docking with a base or planet or just leaving the system, you've escaped to fight another day, surely (Obviously you shouldn't be docking with a hostile base or planet, but that would be a sanctionable action). Ok, don't get involved with the people that just kicked your butt too soon, but that's only because it'll happen again.
Point; Docking in combat counts as a death, meaning relaunching and firing again counts as an re engagement. Thats what was meant.