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Rep Adjusts Via Command - Primitive - 05-12-2011
Quote:Would it be used.. Seems it could be abused, put a 350k Command use on it, so the FLHook takes the money off your account to do the drop rep, so it won't be abused. and the Command won't accept if you don't have the money (that would stop the abuse part of this discussion)
More like 10 millions.
All in all no. We got rules and ID ninjas to prevent stuff like that.
Rep Adjusts Via Command - EisenSeele - 05-12-2011
' Wrote:On a side note, to make it less abusable you need to make it a temporary rephack that will be cancelled once the ship in question docks on the other base or relogs.
Canon would probably love a new game mechanic that prevents OORP docking.
FR5's require extensive RP but are rather permanent and damaging - a temporary no docking rep adjustment would be only a tiny slap on the wrist.
Rep Adjusts Via Command - Daedric - 05-12-2011
' Wrote:Canon would probably love a new game mechanic that prevents OORP docking.
FR5's require extensive RP but are rather permanent and damaging - a temporary no docking rep adjustment would be only a tiny slap on the wrist.
FR5s do not require extensive role play, there merely require sufficient role play. There are currently two levels of FR5s that I am aware of. One is where you are set to hostile, so NPCs and bases shoot at you. The other is just shy of hostile whereas you cannot dock due to Cannon's docking restrictions feature.
This suggestion wasn't throughly thought through, as it leaves room for extreme abuse. I personally don't see a need for it. If they violate 6.10 report them.
Rep Adjusts Via Command - EisenSeele - 05-13-2011
' Wrote:FR5s do not require extensive role play, there merely require sufficient role play. There are currently two levels of FR5s that I am aware of. One is where you are set to hostile, so NPCs and bases shoot at you. The other is just shy of hostile whereas you cannot dock due to Cannon's docking restrictions feature.
This suggestion wasn't throughly thought through, as it leaves room for extreme abuse. I personally don't see a need for it. If they violate 6.10 report them.
Ah, my mistake.
As it stands, however, any faction member indie or official can inrp forbid a non-faction member from docking on one of the faction bases. Why not give at least official faction members to actually deny docking? Wouldn't rule breakage prevention be good if it doesn't come with any bad side effects? It just gives a few people the power to actually enforce what they already can do inrp with actual game mechanics instead of with the threat of sanctions.
Rep Adjusts Via Command - Daedric - 05-13-2011
' Wrote:Ah, my mistake.
As it stands, however, any faction member indie or official can inrp forbid a non-faction member from docking on one of the faction bases. Why not give at least official faction members to actually deny docking? Wouldn't rule breakage prevention be good if it doesn't come with any bad side effects? It just gives a few people the power to actually enforce what they already can do inrp with actual game mechanics instead of with the threat of sanctions.
Wasn't a mistake in my opinion. You voice and idea, you merely didn't finish thinking it through. I'm sure if the idea is worth it and you want to you can flesh it out.
A FR5 isn't a sanction, it is merely a role play consequence. When you are sanctioned you are typically punished, having an FR5 issued against you isn't punishment its merely a consequence of your characters actions. Some FR5s have been filed jointly by both the person asking to change another's rep and the person whose rep is to be changed (by jointly I mean they both agreed that it was the right thing to do).
My issue is with the fact it can and will be abused. While your intentions are good, people will use the ability simply to annoy other players. As was suggested we'd have to have a console message appear so we can show it was used. This would be used to sanction a player who used it purely to annoy another instead of using it within role play. I'm not sure the admins want to implement a feature that would create more sanction reports.
All in all, I agree with you but I don't think the gains out weigh the loss.
Rep Adjusts Via Command - SIN| - 05-13-2011
' Wrote:. As was suggested we'd have to have a console message appear so we can show it was used. This would be used to sanction a player who used it purely to annoy another instead of using it within role play. I'm not sure the admins want to implement a feature that would create more sanction reports.
All in all, I agree with you but I don't think the gains out weigh the loss.
So your telling me you'd abuse using 10m of your own money and risk a hefty sanction given the message on Console?... I'm sure people would think twice when they lose there weapons and armor + 10m to wind someone else up via losing a small partition or, Temp Rep Hack..
please keep the voices coming,
Regards,
Rich.
Rep Adjusts Via Command - Pancakes - 05-13-2011
Make it to set it to -0.56 and only do able by official faction members. oh and temporal aswel, if there is need for more actions against the lad, fill FR5 request.
Rep Adjusts Via Command - Wafellini - 05-13-2011
would be abused so much that ammount of Q_Qing could kill over 9000 elephants.
Srsly - good idea if you are looking from the RP-skilled-longterm experianced Discovery player but from the lolwut side - Disco is not ready yet for it:D
Rep Adjusts Via Command - stewcool - 05-13-2011
-1 Dont like the idea didnt bother to read other posts because they probably all said that its a bad idea. I wouldn't even give a credit estimate because it is something that shouldnt be added, nor will it.
My explanation on why it wont:
Order Guard. Hmm I dont like them being Order guard because they took all that time and effort to get Order Guard. I think I'll just spend this some of credits I have and BOOM! Haha you're no longer Order Guard.
JUST NO!
Rep Adjusts Via Command - Daedric - 05-13-2011
' Wrote:So your telling me you'd abuse using 10m of your own money and risk a hefty sanction given the message on Console?... I'm sure people would think twice when they lose there weapons and armor + 10m to wind someone else up via losing a small partition or, Temp Rep Hack..
please keep the voices coming,
Regards,
Rich.
Did you bother reading my post? I said we'd need the console message as a means of proof so a sanction can be filed against a person abusing the feature. 10m isn't crap and won't prevent someone from abusing a feature. Nor do you or I know what the punishment for abusing this feature would be.