+- Discovery Gaming Community (https://discoverygc.com/forums)
+-- Forum: Role-Playing (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=9)
+--- Forum: Unofficial Factions and Groups (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=67)
+--- Thread: The Fifth Cell (/showthread.php?tid=69379)
The Fifth Cell - Pancakes - 12-04-2011
Well, I actually though that people would point at the Corsairs, but I guess this ought some explaining as well.
Gaians don't have a stated goal of creating their own realm, simply to protect nature. While some Gaian groups might have that goal, Gaian in general as NPC faction don't. Mollies on the other hand have among their stated goals to (1) Free Dublin , (2) Free Bretonia. By "free" I mean control it - this only give an alternative government.
If I seem to give a bit of a confused message, I'll put it in easier words: Governments and groups that their ambitions is to substitute the government, as a stated goal (A thing they try to achieve).
Since I mentioned Corsairs, I feel this need some explaining too. Corsairs are numerous and powerful, and they are also directly involved in the Fifth Cell's early days (If you wish, you can check Amanda Cloud's biography, it's there since it's more her history than the cell's). Also, they are important ally of the Gaians, one which the Cell simply cannot ignore. Corsairs also have important staging points on Rheinland, and unlike other unlawful groups have no wish to control humanity - rather exploit them for the Corsair empire's good.
I hope I explained it well enough, I feel not too well at the moment and might have made some confusion. If there is still such, please inform me and I will make my best to clarify again.
The Fifth Cell - Wafellini - 12-04-2011
I read the story - I like it and all - I just can't ... probably due cause english isn't my first language .. I can't find the GOAL ... you are terrorist who fight with goverments because - and I am lost here. Apart of it it looks cool...another fun party in Bretonia ... just don't aim on Constable:Dor we hussar swarm you.
EDIT also - Nomads - what are their role in it.
The Fifth Cell - Pancakes - 12-04-2011
' Wrote:I read the story - I like it and all - I just can't ... probably due cause english isn't my first language .. I can't find the GOAL ... you are terrorist who fight with goverments because - and I am lost here. Apart of it it looks cool...another fun party in Bretonia ... just don't aim on Constable:Dor we hussar swarm you.
I deny ever shooting a baffie! *Pancakes' nose got 5 inch larger* Darn it.
Anyway, the goal is to create anarchy, in every house.
EDIT: The Fifth Cell is heavily influenced by Gaians. Lots of the members inRP are former Gaians, and thus have lot of respect to nature, and we try to protect it whenever we get the chance. Nomads are trying to eradicate the houses, a state of anarchy and people that won't shoot them is a good state for them (as the keepers understood, after most of the nomads went kawoosh, better live along each other while pushing humans into smaller corners of Sirius). Nomads are creation of nature (or at least, that's what us the poor, mortal, humans know) So we respect them, and since they shoot lots of our enemies too, being a neutral party with them is not such a bad idea.
Moreover, we have no interest if Nomads create their own realm for a simple reason - they are not humans.
The Fifth Cell - Wafellini - 12-04-2011
yes but creating anarchy isn't a goal itself it deletes the goverments for a purpouse - what is the goal after the goverments would be destroyed? that's it? just eliminate the head of snake and leave the rest alone?
The Fifth Cell - Pancakes - 12-04-2011
' Wrote:yes but creating anarchy isn't a goal itself it deletes the goverments for a purpouse - what is the goal after the goverments would be destroyed? that's it? just eliminate the head of snake and leave the rest alone?
The Cell believes that's the only way people can truely be free, and if you ask it's members how can that work they will simply point on Zoners.
The Fifth Cell - Wafellini - 12-04-2011
sound cool to me ... another thing you don't like Order...and as far as I know Order is kinda cooperating with Gaians - I might be wrong about that but I think I heard about it or read somewhere... doesn't that make your Gaian friendship a little hurt? also what is the point of hating Order since they don't trust goverments nor they are intrested in establishing any?
EDIT: NVRM - you think nomads are part of nature. I guess that's the reason.
The Fifth Cell - Pancakes - 12-04-2011
' Wrote:sound cool to me ... another thing you don't like Order...and as far as I know Order is kinda cooperating with Gaians - I might be wrong about that but I think I heard about it or read somewhere... doesn't that make your Gaian friendship a little hurt? also what is the point of hating Order since they don't trust goverments nor they are intrested in establishing any?
EDIT: NVRM - you think nomads are part of nature. I guess that's the reason.
You got it right. This is also why order are unfriendly rather than hostile.
The Fifth Cell - Ash - 12-04-2011
I see... It'd be fun to be the joker and blow things up because you can. Obviously you'd have to put some kind of aim behind what you're putting together in order for it to even be considered. But then that contradicts the idea of complete anarchy seeing as a plan to do so consists of a certain level of order.
A terrorist has a cause to rally behind, but utilises anarchy to generate the desired effects of terrorism. An anarchist can't utilise terrorism seeing as that's a step in the opposite direction to what anarchy is. An organisation.
The Fifth Cell - Pancakes - 12-04-2011
' Wrote:I see... It'd be fun to be the joker and blow things up because you can. Obviously you'd have to put some kind of aim behind what you're putting together in order for it to even be considered. But then that contradicts the idea of complete anarchy seeing as a plan to do so consists of a certain level of order.
A terrorist has a cause to rally behind, but utilises anarchy to generate the desired effects of terrorism. An anarchist can't utilise terrorism seeing as that's a step in the opposite direction to what anarchy is. An organisation.
It's against governments, small independent organisations are still encouraged as long as they don't force others that pass via their space to their willing. You may also find it is reflected in the diplomacy chart. IMG are neutral, so are GMG and Zoners. All of them are completely independent organisations with no territorial ambitions (Again, I am referring to the NPC factions and the Lore as it is written by Igiss, even if the official factions seem to take steps in a different course).
The Fifth Cell - Marburg - 12-05-2011
Hi, Me again (waves) I saw something a bit ago & it made my eye twitch a little, so I was hoping one of y'all could clear it up.
In reference to this: http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...=113418&hl=
It leads me to believe that the intention is to justify a gaian flown outcast ship on the server.
Am I reaching here? Some clarification would be super peachy so that I don't have to continue to wonder